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#2542224 - 02/19/12 08:12 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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Walmart should have the 0w40, only thing is, it isn't cheap. It is their most expensive oil (go figure, since it is their most decorated too).
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#2542233 - 02/19/12 08:17 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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What would you say about the Mobil super synthetic
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#2542236 - 02/19/12 08:19 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
What would you say about the Mobil super synthetic


I would say it isn't as good as the 0w40. But I would say that about pretty much any of their oils. The 0w40 is their flagship oil, it has the most certs of I think any oil in existence for automotive applications. It IS that good.

However, the AFE 0w30 is also an excellent lube (I am running it in the Expedition) and is a fair bit lighter if that's your style.
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#2542246 - 02/19/12 08:30 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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Ill have to price Mobil tomorrow
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#2542293 - 02/19/12 09:14 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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^M1 0w-30 for 3,000 mile OCI for the next 3 oil changes should help a lot.

Also, instead of over-treating, he could begin with idle-flush additives just before dropping the used oil.

How about some fast runs on the interstate, too? Higher the RPM, the more work that area gets, right? That might encourage some of that crud to come off.

I don't see blotches and removing that stuff can sometimes spike wear, so I don't necessarily see the risk in 'blockage', perhaps some slowing of the oil return passages until it's suspended better. Oil-pick up, oil pump? Perhaps some debris, but more likely wear is going to happen without a complete attempt at manual cleaning. valve area, top-end, then oil pan removal, if you want to avoid circulating the crud that is insoluble, JMO...

M1 0w-40 is a good move, too, just perhaps 0w-30 for now and 0w-40 during the summer? ...but really any full synthetic will help. I like Amsoil, Ultra, Red Line...etc, they all have the goods as well. Buy in large containers at WM unless a special at a parts store is available.

PS: I'd compare the sound of the PCV valve to a new OE dealer PCV valve. Sometimes a new one will sound completely different from a used one. It'd be worth changing since it's so cheap anyway(usually, lol...dealers :[ ). The valve may still rattle, yet have a weakened internal spring(depending on the design).

Also, fuel additives with PEA, like Red Line SI-1 FSC from O'Reilly(most locations) claim to clean the PCV system as their vapors are strong enough to help with residual grime).


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#2542303 - 02/19/12 09:20 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: OVERKILL]
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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
It is their most expensive oil (go figure, since it is their most decorated too).


It doesn't help that it's only in the 1L bottles, either. Considering that a lot of the vehicles that use M1 0w-40 have rather large sumps, you'd think a 4L or 5L jug would be a good idea. But, I imagine M1 5w-30 and M1 5w-20 outsell M1 0w-40 by a fair margin, at least in North America.
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#2542326 - 02/19/12 09:32 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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I have most the painting done looks pretty good so far. Should I clean the head as much as I can and then run an idle flush and change the oil I've never done this. But I do want to clean the engine the best way possible
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#2542342 - 02/19/12 09:50 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
I have most the painting done looks pretty good so far. Should I clean the head as much as I can and then run an idle flush and change the oil I've never done this. But I do want to clean the engine the best way possible


Yes, you might as well, it would be a safe thing to do. And then switch to one of the oils we've discussed.

M1 AFE 0w30 is available in the big jug at Walmart, so that may make it a LOT less expensive for you.
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#2542357 - 02/19/12 10:11 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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What would I use? I haven't ever done anything like this. Also what really makes Mobil better than say synpower or pp. Just curious. From your engine pictures I have every reason to believe its very good stuff .
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#2542362 - 02/19/12 10:20 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
What would I use? I haven't ever done anything like this. Also what really makes Mobil better than say synpower or pp. Just curious. From your engine pictures I have every reason to believe its very good stuff .


Do you have a shop vac? If so, use a toothbrush and whatever you have handy to get off the loose stuff. If you are't opposed to dumping the oil that is in it, after you get the loose stuff with the shop vac, use the toothbrush and some carb cleaner (or AC Delco CC cleaner if you can get it, LOL!!!!) and give it a going over. Pull the drain plug, and after the oil is done draining, dump oil over the heads to rinse them off. Button it back up and do a quick 5 minute idle run with the cheapest possible oil you can find (don't change the filter) and then dump it again, replacing it with the GOOD oil and a new filter.

Change the filter after 1,500 miles to start and cut it open to see what you've caught.

I can't tell you that Mobil 1 is better than Synpower or PP. I've never used those two. What I CAN tell you is that Mobil has been making synthetic base stocks longer than either of them by decades and in the case of Synpower, well, Ashland does't "make" anything, they buy their base oils from Mobil, SOPUS or one of the other big players and their add packs from LUBRIZOL or INFINEUM (SOPUS/Mobil).

In addition you have my anecdotes and pictures. Based on those, yes, I assume you would infer that it is good stuff and IMHO, it is.
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#2542383 - 02/19/12 10:49 PM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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Yes it is good stuff no doubt about it. I will get oil tomorrow and I'm not going to promise I get Mobil 1 because the Money situation is tight with saving for school and all. But I will consider it because from your pictures its definitely good stuff. My mom's focus is running Mobil super synthetic and she is happy with it car seems to like it well to. So I may consider that. I know they have sales on Valvoline right now. Either way I will probably get a synthetic . I will also clean that head as well as I can. Makes me kinda sad to see it all dirty but I guess that's what happens. Just kind of suorised since it did get oil changes frequently and was a highway truck and hardly ever in the city.
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#2542571 - 02/20/12 08:38 AM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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I'll jump in here with my 2 cents. As Overk1ll has said, I have used M1 oils for 34 years now and all of my engines have stayed very clean with 10K OCIs. For clean up M1 10-40HM might be a good option as well. Also how are the valve seals on this engine?
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#2542659 - 02/20/12 10:25 AM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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The guys who owned it before me changed the valve seals so I assume they are good
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#2542664 - 02/20/12 10:32 AM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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That's not bad. Slap it back together and drive the [censored] out of it!! I see no issue. One side probably cleaner because of PCV flow patterns.

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#2542703 - 02/20/12 11:30 AM Re: cleaning and painting valve covers and engine pics [Re: Dakota1820]
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http://imgur.com/iXaUH.jpg. the color is Chevy orange. What do you guys think?
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