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#2535737 - 02/13/12 09:41 PM Re: Do we REALLY know if Dinosaurs ---> Motor Oil? [Re: Daryll]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
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Loc: Iowegia - USA
BAck to regulary scheduled programming:

Here is a summary view/history of oil genesis:

https://www.dmr.nd.gov/ndgs/newsletter/NL04S/PDF/origin.pdf

See Figure 2. Note that water and sedimentation play a big role in petroleum genesis.

The following is a slightly more detailed summary paper:

http://chentserver.uwaterloo.ca/aelkamel...f-petroleum.pdf

The discussion I disagree with is:

Quote:
Although simple thermogensis adequately describes petroleum generation,
geocatalysis involving reactive mineral surfaces, clays, trace metals, or
organic species have been proposed.55,56 Such processes are highly
speculative, and it is difficult to image how inorganic agents would remain
activated under subsurface conditions or how mass transport limitations
inherent in solid-solid interactions could be circumvented57


We use cataylists and the catalysis processes to change chemicals from one form or molecular composition to another all the time so why should this be dismissed as a potential process/conversion theory?


Edited by MolaKule (02/13/12 09:50 PM)
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#2546298 - 02/23/12 07:11 PM Re: Do we REALLY know if Dinosaurs ---> Motor Oil? [Re: Daryll]
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Perhaps oil has always been in existence since the beginning of the universe.
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#2546709 - 02/24/12 07:31 AM Re: Do we REALLY know if Dinosaurs ---> Motor Oil? [Re: outoforder]
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Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 233
Loc: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Originally Posted By: outoforder
Perhaps oil has always been in existence since the beginning of the universe.


Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes.

The new findings from the study led by Ralph Lorenz, Cassini radar team member from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, Md., are reported in the Jan. 29 issue of the Geophysical Research Letters.

The case is closed-oil is abiotic.

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#2546752 - 02/24/12 08:23 AM Re: Do we REALLY know if Dinosaurs ---> Motor Oil? [Re: spock1]
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Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 9595
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: spock1
Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes.

The new findings from the study led by Ralph Lorenz, Cassini radar team member from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, Md., are reported in the Jan. 29 issue of the Geophysical Research Letters.

The case is closed-oil is abiotic.

Replace the "is" with "can be" in that last line and you've got it. wink

As a side note, copying and pasting without putting others' words in quotation marks and without citing your source is really bad form. Plagiarism, even.

Here's a link: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080220200045.htm
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