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#24522 - 04/23/03 12:13 AM Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Chris B. Offline


Registered: 03/16/03
Posts: 2869
Loc: Colorado
I use to use this oil when I first started driving in High school and didn't know anything about oil. The lable says "Out performs all leading conventional motor oils" is what sold me on it. I used it in my 1989 Jimmy that had 140,000 miles on it and it seemed to perform well in the engine. The engine was nice and quiet and I drove it for 2 years until I traided it off. I never did a UOA on it and now I wish I did to really see how it performed. Does this oil really out perform all leading conventional motor oils? I was thinking of trying it in my 2002 z28 ls1 if Mobil 1 10w30 does not give me good UOA results. What do you experts really think of this oil? It seems that the local Napa owner loves it and several mechanics I know like it a lot. Thanks!

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#24523 - 04/23/03 12:51 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
csandste Offline


Registered: 05/31/02
Posts: 882
Loc: St. Peters, Missouri
Although there's usually not a lot of synthetic in a blend, most probably do out perform a conventional motor oil. I'd assume the same claim could be made for most blends.

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#24524 - 04/23/03 12:54 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
G-MAN Offline


Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8854
Loc: SC
There's nothing really all that special about Valvoline Durablend. It's nothing more than a Group II and Group III blend. Average specs. I'm sure it performs adequately if changed every 3-5K miles.

I wouldn't use it in my car simply because there are better oils out there.

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#24525 - 04/23/03 01:29 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
MNgopher Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 2907
Loc: Lakeville, MN
I use it in three vehicles (currently). Good results wear wise on two of them so far, although one of the samples was done at 4,000 miles under tough conditions. I usually can find it for about $1.50 a quart on sale, which makes it a decent value, and it does perform better than the All Climate Valvoline line.

I'll have three more analysis coming in the next month or two. My previous results are posted in the UOA's.

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#24526 - 04/23/03 02:32 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Jimbo Offline


Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 1347
Loc: California, USA
The phrase "outperforms all leading conventional motor oils" is advertising "puffery". Outperforms how? Which ones are "leading". What is the defintion of conventional, Group I, II or something else? There are no names or numbers, so there is nothing in that statement that can be proven or disproven in court.

This forum is all about cutting through the hype and trying to find hard facts better than anyplace I know.

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#24527 - 04/23/03 06:13 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Norm Olt Offline


Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 1817
Loc: Pac NW
Jeez. Ya' don't need to sugarcoat it, Jimbo!

Tell us how you REALLY feel! [Cheers!]

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#24528 - 04/23/03 11:27 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Chris B. Offline


Registered: 03/16/03
Posts: 2869
Loc: Colorado
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo:
The phrase "outperforms all leading conventional motor oils" is advertising "puffery". Outperforms how? Which ones are "leading". What is the defintion of conventional, Group I, II or something else? There are no names or numbers, so there is nothing in that statement that can be proven or disproven in court.

This forum is all about cutting through the hype and trying to find hard facts better than anyplace I know.

Good point! This is a good place to learn the facts!

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#24529 - 10/11/03 04:25 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Milton C. Hubbard Offline


Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 14
Loc: Illinois
quote:
Originally posted by G-Man II:
There's nothing really all that special about Valvoline Durablend. It's nothing more than a Group II and Group III blend. Average specs. I'm sure it performs adequately if changed every 3-5K miles.

I wouldn't use it in my car simply because there are better oils out there.

Durablend is one the few blends that meets API CF, whereas those of the major players (Mobil, QS, PZ) meet only SL. Isn't this significant?

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#24530 - 10/11/03 04:43 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
palmerwmd Offline


Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 446
Loc: Louisville, KY
Also meets ACEA A1.

Fred.. [Smile]

[ October 11, 2003, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: palmerwmd ]

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#24531 - 10/11/03 05:11 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Propflux01 Offline


Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 3060
Loc: Arkansastan
Yea, but meets it for how long.......?

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#24532 - 10/11/03 05:13 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Last_Z Offline


Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 2790
Loc: San Antonio, TX
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo:


This forum is all about cutting through the hype and trying to find hard facts better than anyplace I know.

Jimbo,
This is getting increasingly harder to accomplish. Even the "experts" are entering the bias and mis-information game. It's getting tougher to find straihgt answers and educated opinions on here....this is just my opinion, of course
Rick

EDIT: As straight as my "straihgt" above. [LOL!]

[ October 11, 2003, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Last_Z ]

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#24533 - 10/11/03 01:15 PM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
sprintman Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 11005
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
Last_z you got that right!!

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#24534 - 10/11/03 03:54 PM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 19261
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
[Frown]

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#24535 - 10/12/03 09:01 AM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
sbc350gearhead Offline


Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 2556
Loc: Columbus Ohio
I think that this forum is wonderful. [Smile] I also think that the members here are in the top 1% of consumers, when it comes to knowledge of lubricants. Are there opinions here, that can't be backed up with proof?......Yes......that can't be avoided. Some of us use products that have not yet proven to be all that great (I am using RP, and others are using RL), and others are skeptical of products that show themselves to be excellent (schaeffer's surpreme,etc). The bottom line is that we keep each other informed as to UOA's, specs, and real-life experiences. For the time being, I don't see a better alternative. [Cheers!]

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#24536 - 10/11/03 10:40 PM Re: Valvoline Durablend..."Out performs all leading conventional motor oils"
Milton C. Hubbard Offline


Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 14
Loc: Illinois
Durablend also claims to meet the "Corvette requirement" (How's that for specificity?) If they are referring to GM 4718M, that is significant, because only the pure synthetics claim to meet that, but none of the blends.

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