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#2451477 - 12/02/11 08:07 PM NAPA Synthetic oil
civic09 Offline


Registered: 12/02/11
Posts: 401
Loc: PA
Hello everyone and I am new to this site, and was wondering if I could use NAPA synthetic 5w20 for my Civic with the 1.7l 4cyl. My brother uses this in his 05' acura without issue and goes 8k oci with it.


thank you in advance
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#2451482 - 12/02/11 08:15 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
EricF Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
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Loc: SF Bay Area
of course.. it's mfgr'd by Ashland oil which makes Valvoline.

Make sure you use a quality oil filter (no fram).
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#2451486 - 12/02/11 08:20 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
semaj281 Offline


Registered: 01/07/10
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Loc: Suwanee, GA
Is this the same Civic in your signature that has 127500 miles? If you've been using the 5w-20 weight all along, or at least for a majority of its life, I don't see it being a problem.
Also, that NAPA synthetic won't offer much more protection than the PYB you've been using.


Edited by semaj281 (12/02/11 08:21 PM)
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#2451487 - 12/02/11 08:22 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: EricF]
semaj281 Offline


Registered: 01/07/10
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Originally Posted By: EricF
of course.. it's mfgr'd by Ashland oil which makes Valvoline.

Make sure you use a quality oil filter (no fram).

I've heard good things about the Fram Extraguard filters. And a lot of folks use the cheaper Fram products with no issues.
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#2451491 - 12/02/11 08:29 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
JRed Offline


Registered: 06/01/09
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On the surface it appears to be rebadged Valvoline Synpower. I wouldn't use it for extended drains but for 5,000 mile OCIs it should be fine.
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#2451496 - 12/02/11 08:31 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
ARB1977 Offline


Registered: 06/12/05
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Back when i had my Civic i used only Fram X2 filters. 90K when i traded it in with no issues. I believe now their extended guard.
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#2451512 - 12/02/11 08:44 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: EricF]
OtisBlkR1 Offline


Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 3000
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: EricF
of course.. it's mfgr'd by Ashland oil which makes Valvoline.

Make sure you use a quality oil filter (no fram).


+1 Napa IS rebadged Valvoline, and the FRAM FILTER'S OCD (Orange Can of Death) are not highly thought of on this site by many, although ive seen nothing to prove Frams higher end filter's arent quality products.
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#2451550 - 12/02/11 09:17 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
Durango Offline


Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 2054
Loc: Los Angeles, California
I did not realize that this synthetic is nothing more than aa rebadged Valvoline "Synpower". In the past I found Valvoline to be a good oil to use so anyone wondering about this oil should not be worried at all.

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#2451555 - 12/02/11 09:32 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: OtisBlkR1]
barlowc Offline


Registered: 03/16/09
Posts: 2047
Loc: Southeast Michigan
Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
+1 Napa IS rebadged Valvoline

We know it's manufactured by Ashland, but didn't a VOA show it to have a slightly different add-pack?
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#2451568 - 12/02/11 10:01 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
daves87rs Offline


Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 14336
Loc: Michigan
Well, I've been running it in the Cobalt since May (at about 4.2k miles) with no issues to report.


This is some good stuff....
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#2451583 - 12/02/11 10:17 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: Durango]
johnachak Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 1611
Loc: L.I. NY USA
The only oil I ever had break down on me was Valvoline. 1,500 miles of almost all highway. The engine was knocking and ticking to beat the band. I thought I might have a punctured oil pan or something. I pulled the dipstick and the oil just dripped off like water. I changed it (to Quaker state if i remember correctly) and never had a problem again. That WAS 20+ years ago but I like what I am using now. I'm not about to try Valvoline again to see if it improved. With my luck I'll get the one bad batch again... I'm really liking the Kendall Syn right now.
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#2451606 - 12/02/11 10:45 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
Triple_Se7en Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 6640
Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
Originally Posted By: civic09
Hello everyone and I am new to this site, and was wondering if I could use NAPA synthetic 5w20 for my Civic with the 1.7l 4cyl. My brother uses this in his 05' acura without issue and goes 8k oci with it.




NAPA Synthetic has a bit-weaker add-pack than Valvoline synthetic. The base oil is the same.

You can get Quaker State synthetic for about the same price at Walmart.

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#2451654 - 12/03/11 01:15 AM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: barlowc]
chevrofreak Offline


Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 4914
Loc: Billings, MT
Originally Posted By: semaj281
Originally Posted By: EricF
of course.. it's mfgr'd by Ashland oil which makes Valvoline.

Make sure you use a quality oil filter (no fram).

I've heard good things about the Fram Extraguard filters. And a lot of folks use the cheaper Fram products with no issues.


Fram Extra Guards are their basic junk filter. It is the Fram XtendedGuard filters that are worth buying.
Originally Posted By: barlowc
Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
+1 Napa IS rebadged Valvoline

We know it's manufactured by Ashland, but didn't a VOA show it to have a slightly different add-pack?


The SM stuff was definitely significantly different from SynPower. I assume that the SN is as well. It has far less detergents in it.
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#2451893 - 12/03/11 11:50 AM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: civic09]
civic09 Offline


Registered: 12/02/11
Posts: 401
Loc: PA
Thank you gents. I plan to keep using the PYB 5W20 for 5500-6k oci's. I only use WIX filters also. I did use some champion PH 2867 filters and I have about 12 left that my work place was going to throw out. I have used PYB since I bought the car off a older couple, and the mileage was 40k when I got it.


adam
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#2452043 - 12/03/11 03:15 PM Re: NAPA Synthetic oil [Re: johnachak]
OtisBlkR1 Offline


Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 3000
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: johnachak
The only oil I ever had break down on me was Valvoline. 1,500 miles of almost all highway. The engine was knocking and ticking to beat the band. I thought I might have a punctured oil pan or something. I pulled the dipstick and the oil just dripped off like water. I changed it (to Quaker state if i remember correctly) and never had a problem again. That WAS 20+ years ago but I like what I am using now. I'm not about to try Valvoline again to see if it improved. With my luck I'll get the one bad batch again... I'm really liking the Kendall Syn right now.


I experienced this same problem with Penzoil on my last OCI.. weird. I wrote on it in another thread.
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