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#2429285 - 11/08/11 08:15 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: Merkava_4]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 10600
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: caideN
Would the engine last longer using 5w20 oil?


No, but it would probably last longer using 10W-30.


Since 80-85% of wear occurs on start why would a 10-30 oil help an engine to last longer than a quicker flowing oil like 0-20 or 0-30?
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#2429399 - 11/08/11 10:08 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
caideN Offline


Registered: 09/10/11
Posts: 30
Loc: California
I just bought some 0w20 mobil 1 synthetic. Any recommendation on a cheap good filter?

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#2429400 - 11/08/11 10:11 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
Mazda3LA Offline


Registered: 03/26/11
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Loc: San Diego
I have mostly used 5w 20 Motorcraft or Kendall syn blend on my Mazda 3 with no issues. At the moment I'm using PP but will most likely go to Kendall since I only do 5-6K OCI.
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#2429427 - 11/08/11 10:39 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
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"cheap good filter" Motorcraft or Purolator Pure 1 filter.
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#2429579 - 11/09/11 07:04 AM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: CATERHAM]
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Registered: 05/27/11
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Originally Posted By: CATERHAM


BTW, the Mazda 0W-20 oil is one Japanese 0W-20 we know nothing about in the States. We know who makes the Toyota, Honda and Subaru 0W-20s but not Mazda. If someone could post a picture of the bottle that might help determine the source of their oil.



Looks like another Idemitsu fluid. Kinda suspected it since they source the M-V ATF from said same source.
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#2430027 - 11/09/11 02:50 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
Mazda3LA Offline


Registered: 03/26/11
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Loc: San Diego
Does anyone know where the Mazda 0W-20 is sold? Would love to try it out.
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#2430088 - 11/09/11 03:43 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
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Registered: 09/19/11
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Loc: Danville, KY
It's sold at the Mazda dealership...I've bought some....and I've heard it's Petro Canada group III oil....not Idemitsu.
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#2430113 - 11/09/11 04:16 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: OceanDoctor]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Thanks OceanDoctor.
Yes that's definitely an Idemitsu bottle, so that's the source for the Mazda 0W-20 States side.

In Canada, my local Mazda dealer says it's sourced from Petro-Canada but I haven't dropped by to see if it is in the distinctive PC bottle or not. I'm not particularly interested in confirming one way or the other since it's priced at $5.95/L which is more than the Honda/Acura(Idemitsu) 0W-20 and the Toyota 0W-20 of which both are preferred.
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#2430160 - 11/09/11 05:04 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
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Registered: 12/26/07
Posts: 1617
Loc: Catskills, NY
Originally Posted By: caideN
Hello. My father's 2012 Mazda 5 has hit 10,000 miles and is ready for it's 3rd oil change. I know the factory recommends 0w20 oil but I feel like its too thin. Would the engine last longer using 5w20 oil? Also, what oil and filter should I use? I've heard motorcraft or mobil 1 are good, but please share your knowledge.

Thanks!!!


Here is my UOA on my M6 with the 2.5L with Mobil 1 0w20. I would stick with 0w20 to avoid warranty "issues."

Mobil 1 0w20 UOA
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#2430248 - 11/09/11 06:58 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
SXE10 Offline


Registered: 10/02/11
Posts: 151
Loc: New Zealand
Originally Posted By: caideN
I just bought some 0w20 mobil 1 synthetic. Any recommendation on a cheap good filter?
Motorcraft or genuine Mazda but if it's like here Motorcraft are considerably cheaper for the cartridge filter.
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#2430508 - 11/10/11 01:30 AM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
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Registered: 03/26/11
Posts: 126
Loc: San Diego
Found the description on oemmazdaparts.com

SAE 0W-20 Full Synthetic Premium Motor Oil

Features:

• Meets the requirements for American Petroleum Institute (API)

Service SM / Energy Conserving, ILSAC GF-4

• Fuel-efficient formula includes special friction modifiers

that save gas

• Premium additive package fights sludge, varnish, rust,

corrosion and wear

• Formulated for easy cold-weather starting - at temperatures

down to -40°F (-40°C)

• Excellent deposit control

• Approved for Mazda warranty replacement
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#2430583 - 11/10/11 08:07 AM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
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Registered: 09/19/11
Posts: 326
Loc: Danville, KY
Would be nice to see the data sheet on this oil.
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#2430832 - 11/10/11 01:10 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: Mark_Walk]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9893
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Mark_Walk
Would be nice to see the data sheet on this oil.

Since it is the SM GF-4 version of the Idemitsu 0W-20 it very likely if the same as the original Idemitsu made Honda 0W-20 seen here:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1630856#Post1630856
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#2431055 - 11/10/11 04:56 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: caideN]
Mark_Walk Offline


Registered: 09/19/11
Posts: 326
Loc: Danville, KY
Are you confident it's Idemitsu based on the bottle?
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#2431123 - 11/10/11 05:47 PM Re: 2012 Mazda5 Best Oil for Long Life? [Re: Mark_Walk]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9893
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Yes pretty much. Haven't seen the label on the back of the bottle but it might even say made by Idemitsu as the Subaru bottle does.
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