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#2429795 - 11/09/11 11:10 AM Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30
jeepman3071 Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 2028
Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
I'm going to change the oil in the Jeep in about a week for winter. Both the PYB and Valvoline Next Gen are the same price at the local Autozone. Which one should I try? I plan on doing a UOA. How long should I run it for in my 4.0? I do mostly short trips.
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#2429797 - 11/09/11 11:14 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
addyguy Offline


Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 13738
Loc: Canada
PYB. Run 5-6k. Done!
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#2429800 - 11/09/11 11:15 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
RamFan Offline


Registered: 05/09/10
Posts: 1691
Loc: Illinois, U.S.A
If they're the same price, PYB.
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#2429802 - 11/09/11 11:17 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
chubbs1 Offline


Registered: 06/09/10
Posts: 4574
Loc: Merritt Island FL, USA
Flip a coin.
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#2429808 - 11/09/11 11:21 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: chubbs1]
ChrisD46 Offline


Registered: 09/10/10
Posts: 1254
Loc: GA.
+1 PYB - no better conventional in SN GF-5 rating ...

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#2429810 - 11/09/11 11:22 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: chubbs1]
SEMI_287 Offline


Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 1038
Loc: Up State NY
Originally Posted By: chubbs1
Flip a coin.


x2 can't really go wrong with either one.
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#2429814 - 11/09/11 11:24 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10879
Loc: NEO
Pennz.
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#2429816 - 11/09/11 11:24 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
OldCowboy Offline


Registered: 05/28/11
Posts: 734
Loc: SW Missouri
PYB was shown to be a stouter oil than Next Gen in testing by PQA .

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#2429818 - 11/09/11 11:26 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
Loobed Offline


Registered: 07/20/07
Posts: 3742
Loc: Northern California, USA
PQIA just tested both the Pennzoil YB and the NextGen. Go here http://www.pqiamerica.com/ and see which one you like. I like the Pennzoil.

Oldcowboy beat me to it by 2 minutes. He posted while I was typing.


Edited by Loobed (11/09/11 11:35 AM)
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#2430301 - 11/09/11 08:12 PM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
cb_13 Offline


Registered: 07/24/11
Posts: 580
Loc: Missouri
I have used both vwb and pyb had great results with both of them. I am assuming that the vgb is equal in quality to the vwb. Just seems that valvoline and castrol are usually the most expensive oils in my area. I would vote for the pennzoil since that is what i use now.


Edited by cb_13 (11/09/11 08:15 PM)

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#2430312 - 11/09/11 08:22 PM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
Robenstein Offline


Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 3977
Loc: Central IA
Looking at the additive packages, I would go Pennzoil. Valvoline looks pretty weak on the initial TBN numbers especially. Although I will say their synpower looks weak as well but usually returns great numbers in used oil analysis.
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#2430342 - 11/09/11 08:53 PM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
MuzzleFlash40 Offline


Registered: 06/20/11
Posts: 837
Loc: Ohio
I really don't think any of the major brand SN oils hold an advantage over the other. Use either one and the outcome will be the same. A great running clean engine!
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#2430389 - 11/09/11 09:43 PM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 5588
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Pennzoil and no more than 4-5k if your a short tripper IMO.
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#2430407 - 11/09/11 09:53 PM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
bigblumer Offline


Registered: 09/21/11
Posts: 164
Loc: Mn
I've run both before. I'm running the NextGen now in the Kia. Both hold up well with 5K OCI. Valvoline has a 10.00 rebate going on NextGen right now, so it may be worth at least one oil change with the green bottle.
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#2430580 - 11/10/11 08:04 AM Re: Pennzoil YB 5w30 vs. Valvoline Next Gen 5w30 [Re: jeepman3071]
NightRiderQ45 Offline


Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 929
Loc: Houston, TX
Haven't been to the PQIA site in awhile. Just went on there and noticed that Mobil Special numbers were somewhat better than the MS5K. I'm a Mobil user and I can't deny how stout PYB numbers are! The price hike will cause me NOT to purchase it. I have Kendall Titanium in my car now...and looking at those number have me impressed greatly! Wish it was a otc product.
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