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#2409748 - 10/18/11 10:44 PM Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3
gw105 Offline


Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 43
Loc: BC, Canada
The manual for my 2006 Hyundai Elantra calls for "PSF-3 Type fluid". I have never heard of this before, likely dealer specific. Is there any other equivilent or better fluid available for this application?

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#2409946 - 10/19/11 09:26 AM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
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Registered: 03/21/06
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Loc: Las Vegas NV
I had Amsoil ATF in the power steering of my Dad's Elantra for years. No problems.
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#2411537 - 10/20/11 06:44 PM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
gw105 Offline


Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 43
Loc: BC, Canada
Will plain old Valvoline power steering fluid work?

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#2412047 - 10/21/11 12:09 PM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7305
Loc: Buffalo, NY
You think PSF-3 is painful to find, 2007+ use PSF-4! I never got around to changing PSF on my Santa Fe, but from what I've read, owners have swapped out factory PSF-3 and 4 with various name-branded "synthetic PSF" with no negative effects what so ever.

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#2412058 - 10/21/11 12:20 PM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
Wilhelm_D Offline


Registered: 01/28/09
Posts: 818
Loc: Tacoma, WA
Originally Posted By: gw105
The manual for my 2006 Hyundai Elantra calls for "PSF-3 Type fluid". I have never heard of this before, likely dealer specific. Is there any other equivilent or better fluid available for this application?


PSF-3 was originally specified as "PSF-3 or Dexron ATF".

Most dealers don't carry it - they use Hyundai ATF or another ATF.

Any quality highly friction modified ATF should work - SP-III Hyundai, Mercon V, etc.

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#2412305 - 10/21/11 05:25 PM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
RPMster Offline


Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 119
Loc: Southern California
Yep, I can confirm this as well. Straight from a veteran technician at my local Hyundai dealer: the PSF-3 cars from a few years ago could use ATF without a problem, but the newer cars with PSF-4 can only use PSF-4 (or a similarly-performing synthetic PSF).

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#2412729 - 10/22/11 10:19 AM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
gw105 Offline


Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 43
Loc: BC, Canada
Wow I'm glad they keep it simple and avoid confusion LOL. So I can use an ATF such as maxlife, or the new PSF-4. I wonder which would be a better choice? Plain old PSF is a no go then?

Can't wait until I swap out the manual tranny oil LOL

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#2414563 - 10/24/11 11:04 AM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
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Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 253
Loc: McGregor TX
I did some research on this and it seems that plain old PSF is fine--and what is even used/recommended at some dealerships. I drained/swapped using Super Tech PSF from Walmart and have had no issues.

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#2455684 - 12/07/11 10:56 AM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
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Registered: 07/23/05
Posts: 193
Loc: Ormond by the Sea, FL
I've found with both my cars (Mitsu and Hyundai) there can be confusing specs for fluids (coolant, ATF, PS, etc.). I decided to just purchase them from the dealer's parts dept. It costs more than the stuff at AA or Autozone, but it's also stuff I only buy once every few years.

Try finding a coolant that is spec'd correctly for a Hyundai at an auto parts store. They probably would have to order it. I found it easier just to get the "Genuine Hyundai coolant" at the dealer for $20/gal., since it will last me 3 or 4 years anyway and the formulation is correct.

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#2455694 - 12/07/11 11:09 AM Re: Hyundai Power Steering Fluid PSF-3 [Re: gw105]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7305
Loc: Buffalo, NY
We've had a few threads going on this topic over the years. Hyundai PSF-4 is supposedly a synthetic fluid, devised to reduce extreme cold start PS system noise. It's not that adding PSF-3 to your PSF-4 system will spell certain disaster, it's just that it will reduce the synthetic properties. Here's some info:

http://www.amdmaddness.com/sonata/tsb/power%20steering%20fluid.pdf

http://dcs.hyundaidealer.com/files/resources/msds/ch67.pdf

Joel
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