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#2383623 - 09/21/11 09:41 AM Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics
helios Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
Posts: 8
Loc: CA
Does Eneos synthetic motor oil have any qualities not provided by other synthetic oils?
I've been using Red Line 5-40w and after a friend recommended Eneos, I tried it but really can't find any benefits to it not provided by Red Line.
I don't think that Eneos is an extended drain interval oil like Red Line.
So what benefits/qualities does Eneos have that Red Line and others don't?

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#2383628 - 09/21/11 09:43 AM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
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Red Line isn't marketed as extended drain oil either.

What benefits are you looking for exactly?

You'll be hard pressed to find any noticeable difference between any of the synthetic oils out there.
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#2383634 - 09/21/11 09:48 AM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: Quattro Pete]
BobFout Offline


Registered: 03/23/09
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Red Line isn't marketed as extended drain oil either.

What benefits are you looking for exactly?

You'll be hard pressed to find any noticeable difference between any of the synthetic oils out there.


http://www.redlineoil.com/techinfo_faq.aspx

Q: How often should I change my Red Line oil?

It depends on how you drive. If you do a lot of city driving or low speed/low frequency driving, we recommend oil changes at 7500 miles. Vehicles that see more highway driving can go a maximum of 15,000 to 18,000 miles with an oil filter change in between. Modern filter technology and the latest, clean-burning fuels have reduced the solids that contaminate oil, so frequent filter changes aren't usually necessary.
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#2383635 - 09/21/11 09:48 AM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
bepperb Offline


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I think RedLine is way overkill for 99% of applications. That being said, they would be hard to beat.

"What benefits are you looking for exactly?" is the obvious question. Without an application who knows.
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#2383637 - 09/21/11 09:49 AM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Thanks for the correction, Bob. My bad.
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#2383665 - 09/21/11 10:26 AM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Firstly, ENEOS 5W-40 (HTHS 3.96cP) is a much lighter oil than RL 5W-40 (HTHS 4.6cP). That's why RL usually suggests dropping a grade when switching to RL.
So RL's VI free 5W-30 (HTHS 3.8cP) would be a better choice plus you get a boatload of moly or RL 0W-40 (HTHS 4.0cP).
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#2383726 - 09/21/11 11:34 AM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
helios Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
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Loc: CA
Well, I'm looking for maximum engine protection along with extended drain intervals....at about 10k miles with a filter change at 3k or 5k mile intervals.
Don't think that Eneos markets itself as an extended drain interval oil...so whaddya think, can Eneos safely go 10k miles?

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#2383738 - 09/21/11 11:46 AM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
NateDN10 Offline


Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 1482
Loc: Rochester, NY
Originally Posted By: helios
Well, I'm looking for maximum engine protection along with extended drain intervals....at about 10k miles with a filter change at 3k or 5k mile intervals.
Don't think that Eneos markets itself as an extended drain interval oil...so whaddya think, can Eneos safely go 10k miles?

What car, and what are your driving habits? What does your owner's manual suggest for oil change intervals?

Also, 3K or 5K oil filter changes are unnecessary. In the Honda Accord we used to have, it recommended 7.5K oil changes and a filter every other oil change!
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#2383765 - 09/21/11 12:16 PM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: NateDN10]
helios Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
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Loc: CA
The car is a Subaru(non turbo). Driven 50% in city and 50% highway. Subaru used to say 15k miles between oil changes. Now, it's at 7.5k miles. And on dino oil too. LOL, 15k miles on dino oil? Say goodbye to engine longevity.

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#2383794 - 09/21/11 12:43 PM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Isn't 5W-40 heavier than spec'd for your car?
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#2383798 - 09/21/11 12:44 PM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
brandini Offline


Registered: 10/08/09
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Loc: Richmond, VA
15k or <insert time period here>

Don't forget that part or you will kiss your warranty goodbye.
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#2383814 - 09/21/11 01:07 PM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: CATERHAM]
helios Offline


Registered: 09/20/11
Posts: 8
Loc: CA
Specs call for 5-30w....5-40w gives me a tad more protection.
My Subaru is over 10 years old....well past its warranty.

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#2383852 - 09/21/11 01:34 PM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9874
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
That's an oil myth that thicker oil provides more "protection".
For the way you use your car I would definitely stick with a 5W-30 grade, as it will provide superior overall lubrication to the rather heavy 5W-40 ENEOS.
If you want to use ENEOS, I do like their 5W-30.
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#2383877 - 09/21/11 02:01 PM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: CATERHAM]
poiuy223 Offline


Registered: 01/03/11
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Loc: So Cal, USA
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
That's an oil myth that thicker oil provides more "protection".
For the way you use your car I would definitely stick with a 5W-30 grade, as it will provide superior overall lubrication to the rather heavy 5W-40 ENEOS.
If you want to use ENEOS, I do like their 5W-30.

+1

Or M1 0w-30.
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#2383883 - 09/21/11 02:07 PM Re: Eneos Motor Oil Compaired To Other Synthetics [Re: helios]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 10446
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: helios
Well, I'm looking for maximum engine protection along with extended drain intervals....at about 10k miles with a filter change at 3k or 5k mile intervals.
Don't think that Eneos markets itself as an extended drain interval oil...so whaddya think, can Eneos safely go 10k miles?


It seems many are afraid of the 10K OCI. For most engines 10K OCIs aren't a problem. I've been doing that since 1978 in all kinds of engines under all kinds on conditions. All with M1 oils with no filter changes during the OCI. My engines have stayed very clean and lasted as long as the car itself. As for Enos, If it won't protect your engine for 10K ( in most cases) then dump the stuff and go to plan "B".


Edited by tig1 (09/21/11 02:08 PM)
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