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#2369947 - 09/07/11 09:44 AM Brake hoses- time vs. mileage
vinu_neuro Offline


Registered: 05/09/05
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Loc: Chicago / IN
Are brake hoses items that wear over time or mileage? My Prelude is only 10 years old but the chassis has 256k miles on it. Should I be considering replacing all four brake hoses?
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#2369957 - 09/07/11 09:59 AM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
chubbs1 Offline


Registered: 06/09/10
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Loc: Merritt Island FL, USA
They do get weathered so I would say it is always good to be on the safe side with your brakes Vinu. I would replace, especially where you get temp fluctuations as great as you do in ChiTown.
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#2369969 - 09/07/11 10:11 AM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
cmf Offline


Registered: 05/07/11
Posts: 415
Loc: Florida
They deteriorate based on time, not mileage. Although not changing your brake fluid at proper intervals can negatively impact the life of the hoses.

If you plan on keeping the car for another few years, I would just go ahead and replace them. If you plan on getting rid of it in the next 2 years I would inspect them. Look for cracks, bulging, twisting, etc. And then feel them to see if they are soft and squishy, or hard and brittle.

I have heard that brake hoses only last 6 years on average, but that is not true in my experience (it may be true in places with harsher weather than Florida). I would say that around 10 years would be a good point to replace them for someone who plans on keeping the car. They are definitely one of those items that "better safe than sorry" is a valid reason for replacing.


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#2369993 - 09/07/11 10:37 AM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 22983
Loc: ME
I bet it's both. You get some flexing of the suspension and internal stretching under pressure. Highway miles would be kind.

They're a thing that doesn't go from good to bad overnight. You might like the pedal feel of new parts, and they don't even have to be fancy braided covered.

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#2370455 - 09/07/11 06:01 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
hattaresguy Offline


Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 4514
Loc: CT
Yes, I replace them on my vehicles at the 10 year point. Cheap insurance.

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#2370464 - 09/07/11 06:06 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
Tegger Offline


Registered: 03/20/06
Posts: 1312
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Are brake hoses items that wear over time or mileage? My Prelude is only 10 years old but the chassis has 256k miles on it. Should I be considering replacing all four brake hoses?

Don't bother replacing anything. You will spend money and time for no good reason.

Honda flex-lines are extremely high-quality, and will not fail during your lifetime unless somebody cuts them with a knife. And even if they do begin to fail, they will do so very slowly, giving you LOTS of warning in the form of damp spots at the metal ends.

No worries. Enjoy your Honda and put your money into something else that's more fun and will do more good.
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#2370536 - 09/07/11 07:04 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Mileage is more important. They flex when the suspension does, and swell when you put on the brakes.
Lots of movement.
But everyone uses different compounds. Japanese cars seem to always have better rubber stuff.

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#2370559 - 09/07/11 07:21 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: mechtech2]
Tegger Offline


Registered: 03/20/06
Posts: 1312
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Mileage is more important. They flex when the suspension does, and swell when you put on the brakes.
Lots of movement.
But everyone uses different compounds. Japanese cars seem to always have better rubber stuff.

The rubber isn't important. Honda brake-hoses derive their strength from the DOUBLE fabric carcass that forms the center of the hose structure.

Failure does NOT come from the middle of the hose, but from the ENDS of the hose.
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#2370580 - 09/07/11 07:44 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 32575
Loc: New Jersey
This is what mine look like aftr 29 years and 170k:








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#2370674 - 09/07/11 08:53 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
hattaresguy Offline


Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 4514
Loc: CT
Yes that's nice but on my W126 they are $10 each, so why not change them?

If you remove them from the car and bend them you will see all kinds of cracks. In the 2nd picture you can already see bulging.


Edited by hattaresguy (09/07/11 08:53 PM)

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#2370681 - 09/07/11 09:01 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: hattaresguy]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 32575
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Yes that's nice but on my W126 they are $10 each, so why not change them?

If you remove them from the car and bend them you will see all kinds of cracks. In the 2nd picture you can already see bulging.


This was after I first got the car. What do you think I did, leave them on to save $20?

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#2370720 - 09/07/11 09:19 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 12646
Loc: Upstate NY
The front brake hoses on my Jeep GC are more like $30 each at RockAuto.
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#2370931 - 09/08/11 12:33 AM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
vinu_neuro Offline


Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 936
Loc: Chicago / IN
My hoses look fine. I'm leaving them alone for now. OEM is $30/F and $25/R, I don't want to go cheapo on these so I'll do them when I can afford to.
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#2371302 - 09/08/11 01:03 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: Tegger]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Originally Posted By: Tegger
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Mileage is more important. They flex when the suspension does, and swell when you put on the brakes.
Lots of movement.
But everyone uses different compounds. Japanese cars seem to always have better rubber stuff.

The rubber isn't important. Honda brake-hoses derive their strength from the DOUBLE fabric carcass that forms the center of the hose structure.

Failure does NOT come from the middle of the hose, but from the ENDS of the hose.


I can see your lack of experience showing.
Brake hoses fail internally often. They can swell or break up inside.
And I can't count the outside failures in the middle of the hose that I've seen.

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#2371523 - 09/08/11 05:09 PM Re: Brake hoses- time vs. mileage [Re: vinu_neuro]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 5958
Loc: Florida
Hose life varies based on who made the hose, miles, abrasion, and exposure to road salt.

Here in Florida, 15 to 20 years is common for brake hoses.
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