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#2333272 - 07/31/11 02:41 PM 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 309
Loc: McGregor TX
Any idea what would be best to use in this thing? It has only 55K original miles on it. I believe my dad (who has owned it since my grandad passed away) has been using Pennzoil 10w30. I'm going to be getting the car for my daughter to drive around town and was wondering if this is the right weight oil to use. Any recommendations?
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#2333274 - 07/31/11 02:45 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 26516
Loc: ME
I'd go thicker, 15w40 or 20w50. 20-50 used to be "the thing" for aircooled VWs in the day. Especially in TX.

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#2333276 - 07/31/11 02:49 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
They can run hot, being air cooled.
I was heavily into bugs and dune buggys for a while.
A 10-40 or 15-40 HDEO would be very good in your locale.
But sure, the 10-30 is fine for light driving and short trips.

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#2333281 - 07/31/11 02:53 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 12631
Loc: apple valley, ca
My dad put almost 250K on 2 bugs. A 70 and a 74 running Pennzoil 10w40 year round. I remember a few trips in Summer from Ca to TX in them. Never had any engine work done to either.
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#2333295 - 07/31/11 03:15 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
Maximus1966 Offline


Registered: 11/01/10
Posts: 438
Loc: USA
My 63 Beetle has been running great on Rotella Dino 15W40 for quite a few years now....130K+ miles without an oil-related problem. I think 10W30 is too light.

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#2333298 - 07/31/11 03:40 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 309
Loc: McGregor TX
Great--thanks for the feedback! I know this doesn't really go in this section of the forums, but I'll ask anyway since it is related to this thread.

I've never done an oil change on a bug. I know they have a screen instead of a filter. Does everyone generally just clean the screen and put it back in? Can you just drain the oil and clean the screen every other change? What is the recommended procedure? It looks like a bigger pain than doing an oil change with a regular canister filter.

Also, anyone know the oil capacity of a '68 Beetle with the 1500cc engine? I'm sure I can look it up, but I'll go ahead and ask.

Thanks in advance!
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#2333302 - 07/31/11 03:50 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
occupant Offline


Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 554
Loc: Columbus, OH
A VW engine can probably benefit from the HDEO's additive mix. 15w40, you can get the 5qt jugs of the Motorcraft 15w40 for about $15 these days, and that's a pretty good deal. Leaves plenty left over for you to top off as needed in between. Or if you don't burn hardly ANY oil, that's enough for two changes (I believe the sump capacity on the old bugs is a hair over 2.5qts)
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#2333306 - 07/31/11 03:53 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
Clean the screen, replace both gaskets, do not over tighten the nuts, and 3 quarts.

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#2333309 - 07/31/11 03:55 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
Maximus1966 Offline


Registered: 11/01/10
Posts: 438
Loc: USA
Check your manual, but as I recall your oil capacity should be 2.5L or 2.6 quarts. I would put in 2.5 qts, run for a minute or two, let sit for 5 minutes, then check and top off if needed.

The oil screen is so coarse as to be practically useless. Every other oil change would be fine for cleaning it and re-installing. You'll need a new gasket when you drop the screen....and don't overtorque the screws holding the plate on.

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#2333323 - 07/31/11 04:09 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
electrolover Offline


Registered: 12/04/10
Posts: 3192
Loc: TEXAS
HDEO 15/40 or 20/50
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#2333356 - 07/31/11 04:57 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
Whimsey Offline


Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 3314
Loc: The Garden State
I owned a then new 1972 Beetle. The owner's manual called for straight 30 weight & straight 20 weight oils. Even with the 20 wt oil it was a bear to start in the real cold winter temps. Though I never had any other problems with oil viscosity causing engine problems.

Whimsey


Edited by Whimsey (07/31/11 04:57 PM)

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#2333362 - 07/31/11 05:05 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
electrolover Offline


Registered: 12/04/10
Posts: 3192
Loc: TEXAS
with a 3qt capacity and no real filter i would not look for extended drain intervals in this onecrackmeup

whats the manual say about oci?
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#2333381 - 07/31/11 05:25 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 10859
Loc: OH
In my last air cooled VW, a Vanagon, I used 10W-40 winters and either that or a 30W summers.
If I had one now, I'd use a 15W-40 summers and 10W-30 winters.
The air cooled vdubs have pretty low specific output, but they need every little Percheron just to keep moving, so they get worked pretty hard within their limits.
I don't think that a 20W-50 is needed with modern oils.
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#2333423 - 07/31/11 06:35 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
ChiTDI Offline


Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 2057
Loc: Chicago IL
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Great--thanks for the feedback! I know this doesn't really go in this section of the forums, but I'll ask anyway since it is related to this thread.

I've never done an oil change on a bug. I know they have a screen instead of a filter. Does everyone generally just clean the screen and put it back in? Can you just drain the oil and clean the screen every other change? What is the recommended procedure? It looks like a bigger pain than doing an oil change with a regular canister filter.

Also, anyone know the oil capacity of a '68 Beetle with the 1500cc engine? I'm sure I can look it up, but I'll go ahead and ask.

Thanks in advance!

5 pints in the sump so when you get the three quarts, don't overfill.
After changing the screen a few times you'll get good at it and won't think twice. Clean it every time and those 10 mm bolts go on in a star pattern like wheel lugs so you don't have leaks. Get the torque from a Chilton's or All-data or some internet source.
+1 on the 15w40.


Edited by ChiTDI (07/31/11 06:36 PM)

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#2333430 - 07/31/11 06:43 PM Re: 1968 Volkswagen Beetle oil recommendations [Re: mrdctaylor]
Maximus1966 Offline


Registered: 11/01/10
Posts: 438
Loc: USA
Here's a guy doing an oil change on a 68, albeit a pretty nasty one:

http://www.reluctantmechanic.com/step-by-step/vw_beetle_oil_change.php

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