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#2330292 - 07/28/11 11:00 AM Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA
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#2330398 - 07/28/11 12:31 PM Re: Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA [Re: BobFout]
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Virtually no difference from the T6. That being said its hard to say which oil would have better TBN retention, low temp performance etc. I think I would choose this over the T6 with price factored in.
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#2330996 - 07/29/11 12:10 AM Re: Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA [Re: chubbs1]
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Originally Posted By: chubbs1
Virtually no difference from the T6. That being said its hard to say which oil would have better TBN retention, low temp performance etc. I think I would choose this over the T6 with price factored in.


The CJ-4 RTS to CJ-4 T6 transition (this has been about 2 years ago) was mostly a base-stock and/or VII change.
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#2331230 - 07/29/11 09:32 AM Re: Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA [Re: BobFout]
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Well for bikes it makes a difference. T6 is JASO MA certified and the T isn't.
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#2331310 - 07/29/11 11:01 AM Re: Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA [Re: sm00thpapa]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Originally Posted By: sm00thpapa
Well for bikes it makes a difference. T6 is JASO MA certified and the T isn't.

Mostly likely only because SOPUS didn't bother to have it tested against JASO MA before.

The add pack hasn't changed, and that's the main determinant of the friction modifier test results of JASO MA spec.
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#2449189 - 11/30/11 12:07 PM Re: Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA [Re: BobFout]
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Is the numbers for magnesium and calcium reversed?

Calcium seems low for such high TBN @ 786

Does the magnesium compensate for the calcium?
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#2491041 - 01/12/12 10:03 AM Re: Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA [Re: BobFout]
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Yes, as I understand it anyways.
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#2501235 - 01/21/12 12:21 PM Re: Shell Rotella T 5w40 VOA [Re: BobFout]
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Registered: 12/29/10
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Loc: Los Angeles, California
I would personally stay away from this oil because its Ca / Mg ratio is less than 1 (well less than 1 indeed). Mg is certainly corrosive and increases wear at high ratios; although, it's a good TBN retainer (helps retain initial TBN).

Answering question on high initial TBN, both Mg and Ca will result in increasing the high initial TBN. They both come from detergents, which means they are both bases (as in total base number [TBN]).

I like the high ZDDP (phosphorus) though. But the unusually large ratio of Mg in this oil is enough for me not to consider it.

Thanks for the VOA, as always.
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