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#2312874 - 07/11/11 04:02 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
PontiacFan Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: zyxelenator
bavk cover is off. There is sludge, but less than under front cover... More on left side...going to clean it all up soon,change all gaskets and apply some silicone oil resistant gasket in addition, just to have less chance of leaks,so I will never come back there.


I would like to thank you for posting picks of your VALVETRAIN, good luck on getting everything clean, we are always here if you need any suggestions.

I am sorry that auto-rx did not work for you, then again we always knew the product did not do anything for the Valvetrain, I am guessing that you tried arx 1st, do not feel bad, just about everyone on this board tried this product and they were not happy.

You then gave MMO a try, the product is good, but of course it takes time for this Mystery product to work, something tells me that you only ran this product for about 500 to 1000 miles, it really needs about 10,000 miles to work, that is JMO.

You then went onto Kreen, your valvetrain pics could tell us that Kreen does not work, but I do believe this product works, something is going on inside of your engine that is causing the deposits we see in your valvetrain. I would suggest that you find out what is causing this mess in your valvetrain.

If you want to go and get things cleaned cheap, try some PYB with MMO. If you want a bit faster results, try some PP and MMO, Good Luck.

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#2312918 - 07/11/11 04:48 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
I beliave that all products worked,and there was much more [censored] there. As I mentioned before, I couldn't even measure my oil level before Arx... Cleaning back part right now, and same as upfront, poop is soft, but it is harder or hard as tar close to edges, where oil and checimals can't reach it. So I beliave that arx, mmo and kreen soften them up and it's easy to clean with papertowels and old toothbrush. There is only thin like 1mm layer that can be only scraped with metal brush or screw driver, but not going to do that. All soft and lose particles mostly removed. Whatever is left hoply will be flushed down to filter by gunk flush and drained, next fill will run only for 5 min. Then maxlife with last bottle of arx. Then we will see, have about 6 oz of kreen left, Lubro moly engine detox is on it's way. After I use that, will just add mmo every fill...to get the rest of poop out little by little.
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99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

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#2312946 - 07/11/11 05:18 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
PontiacFan Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: zyxelenator
I beliave that all products worked,and there was much more [censored] there.


Just wish we knew which product deserved the most credit.

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Whatever is left hoply will be flushed down to filter by gunk flush and drained, next fill will run only for 5 min.


Good Luck

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Then maxlife with last bottle of arx.


I would skip the arx, it was the 1st product you used and you really did not get any results. JMO

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Then we will see, have about 6 oz of kreen left, Lubro moly engine detox is on it's way.


This sounds interesting, you just might get some results. JMO

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After I use that, will just add mmo every fill...to get the rest of poop out little by little.


+1

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#2313238 - 07/11/11 11:00 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
will upload some pictures soon. So far back cover is back on with new gaskets, engine was cranked without plugs, put the plugs on the back, intake. Then it was egr, that [censored] took like 40 min to put it back on, and extra pair of hands... So just need to put front cover,plugs, throtlle and all hoses and wires. And hope it will run and don't leak anything.
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99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

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#2313261 - 07/11/11 11:14 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
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Registered: 08/06/10
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Loc: PL&F
Not wanting to re-read other threads etc...but did you thoroughly clean all the PCV valve system? The hoses, elbows, the actual valve works, and perhaps the chamber it connects into the engine at etc.?

For instance, on my 92 Civic I found out the PCV valve was connected to a breather chamber off the backside of cylinder head/top-end area. The chamber itself was rather nasty. I still haven't pulled it off to manually clean it, thinking of doing that during my next oil change.

Old PCV valve(long story), so the chamber it sat in has similar gunk inside of it and has yet to be cleaned(trying to figure out how to remove it myself):

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#2313316 - 07/12/11 12:53 AM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
Yeap, pvc was cleaned and valve changed(all hoses and holes I could get before), today I dosed bunch on carb cleaner and brake cleaner thru pcv holes in back cover + manual clean, and saw it come out clean on the other side. So here is some more pics:
Back cover is finally off, had troubles because of buch of wires in my way:

left side, right side picture is not really good, but it was cleaner...

back cover:

and again:

forgot to take picture of back one, before I re-installed cover, but got the front one after little clean up:

right side close up:

left side close up:

and sure covers are much cleaner than before...


Edited by zyxelenator (07/12/11 12:58 AM)
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99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

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#2313320 - 07/12/11 01:01 AM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
I am going to die probably... Heat index 115 on Tuesday...
Comparison, before and after manual clean:

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99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

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#2313380 - 07/12/11 06:58 AM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21325
Loc: NY
Looks like a good start, once you finish drop the oil pan. My guess is it will be as bad or worse than the top end of the engine. After that pick a product and stick with it, following the mfg dierctions. Kreen would be my first choice for your engine. JMO
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#2313396 - 07/12/11 07:39 AM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: demarpaint]
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Registered: 09/04/08
Posts: 4617
Loc: Western Washington
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Looks like a good start, once you finish drop the oil pan. My guess is it will be as bad or worse than the top end of the engine. After that pick a product and stick with it, following the mfg dierctions. Kreen would be my first choice for your engine. JMO


He's not going to drop the pan because it involves removing the axle. I agree that it's probably pretty bad, but he can't get to it easily.

OP, good job so far, but what's the idea with this special cleaner from Aus? I wouldn't put anything harsh in this engine, just keep going with Kreen, etc.
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#2313467 - 07/12/11 09:04 AM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: hate2work]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21325
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: hate2work
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Looks like a good start, once you finish drop the oil pan. My guess is it will be as bad or worse than the top end of the engine. After that pick a product and stick with it, following the mfg dierctions. Kreen would be my first choice for your engine. JMO


He's not going to drop the pan because it involves removing the axle. I agree that it's probably pretty bad, but he can't get to it easily.

OP, good job so far, but what's the idea with this special cleaner from Aus? I wouldn't put anything harsh in this engine, just keep going with Kreen, etc.


Good point Don. I guess its time for the rubber to meet the road. From the top end of the engine pictures, I think he's got a long road ahead of him, and I would be very concerned with the pickup screen plugging up. Even the very best engine cleaning/flushes have their limitations. JMO
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#2313589 - 07/12/11 11:16 AM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
Chemical from Australia should be somewhat between flush and kreen. Should be used for 200 miles. If I fould the right one. They keep changing names for different countries. I'm little surprised by kreen, it melted(left rough kinda varnish) on mesure cup. Didn't do it with water bottle before...
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99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

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#2313635 - 07/12/11 11:51 AM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 15135
Loc: Sunny Florida
OUCH.

This is a good example of why additives get a bad rap. This engine needed a lot more than anyone could expect a can o' magic to deal with.

NO plastics on Kreen! It will eat them up.
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#2313690 - 07/12/11 12:48 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: SteveSRT8]
Russell Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 2136
Loc: Lexington, KY
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
OUCH.

This is a good example of why additives get a bad rap. This engine needed a lot more than anyone could expect a can o' magic to deal with.

NO plastics on Kreen! It will eat them up.


Sort of makes me wonder how much you should use in the fuel system. I ran 16 oz through my BMW at a rate of 1 oz per gallon. Nothing quit or melted. Car actually seems to run a bit better via the butt dyno even during 94-97 degree weather.


Edited by Russell (07/12/11 12:49 PM)
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#2313697 - 07/12/11 12:54 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: Russell]
PontiacFan Offline


Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 278
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: Russell
I ran 16 oz through my BMW at a rate of 1 oz per gallon. Nothing quit or melted. Car actually seems to run a bit better via the butt dyno even during 94-97 degree weather.


Maybe the Kreen cleaned something up in the rings or combustion chamber, it sure seems like Kreen did something for you.

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#2313853 - 07/12/11 03:34 PM Re: Kreen in 3.0L Camry [Re: zyxelenator]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
woohoo, car started. From trird try and fully depressed gas pedal. Lots of white smoke comes out, kreen is burning out.
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99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

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