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#2288580 - 06/15/11 10:07 AM SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100
Rick_A Offline


Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 106
Loc: Riverside Calif
1999 Honda ST1100
Water-cooled V4
Shared engine/trans. oil, wet clutch

Comments:
SuperTech 15W40 oil
SuperTech automotive oil filter
MMO as a UCL.

This is my first run with SuperTech.
The wear metals look good and the TBN held up well for 8,000 miles.

I filled the bike with Delvac 15W40 this time.

Blackstone Labs Test results:

Oil.........Redline 15W50........Redline 15W50........Rotella 10W30........SuperTech 15W40
Filter..............PL14610..............PL14610...............PL14610..............ST7317
Total Miles....143,045................147,107................155,087................163,131
Miles on oil....8,025..................12,087..................7,980..................8,043
Time on Oil....6 Mo.....................8 Mo...................4 1/2 mo..............4 1/2 mo
Make up oil......0........................0......................0.........................0
Aluminum......6.......................18........................10........................12
Chromium........0......................0.........................0........................1
Iron...........11.........................15........................12.......................14
Copper........5...........................7..........................5.......................4
Lead..........13..........................16.........................4........................3
Tin...........3...........................1...........................2.........................0
Moly............586.......................524.......................61........................46
Nickel........0.........................0............................0............................0
Manganese...0...........................0.........................0..........................0
Silver........0...........................0...........................0..........................0
Titanium......0.........................0...........................0.........................0
Potassium....3........................2...........................0...........................0
Boron.......29........................25..........................10..........................4
Silicon..........18.......................18........................12........................6
Sodium.........39.....................46.........................16.........................13
Calcium.........2625......................2625....................2105....................883
Magnesium....12.......................12........................11........................1026
Phosphorus......1129.....................987.....................847.....................1001
Zinc...............1326..................1174.....................834.....................1111
Barium............0......................0.........................0..........................0






Flashpoint F........395..................430.....................400.....................385
Fuel...................<0.5................<.5.....................<.5.....................TR
Antifreeze...........0..................... 0....................... 0.......................0
Water................0....................0........................0.........................0
Insoluables........0.3....................0.2......................0.2......................0.2
SUS Visc@210f....88.0....................89.3....................62.5....................67.7
cST Visc@100c......17.50..............17.81...................10.93....................12.34
TBN....................4.5..................4.0....................4.4......................5.0

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#2288584 - 06/15/11 10:12 AM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Rick_A]
addyguy Offline


Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 13429
Loc: Canada
That ST 15W-40 is re-badged Mobil Delvac - you can tell by the Ca/Mg values.

For 8k on a bike, pretty darn good, and probably cheap, too!
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#2288615 - 06/15/11 10:49 AM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: addyguy]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 1694
Loc: Houston, Texas
They got too carried away with the amount of moly in the red line oil. That's why it shows high lead. It tends to corrode the bearings slightly when they use too much. It seems anytime an oil has more than about 200ppm moly it shows either high copper or high lead. I'd stick with the rotella or super tech or any other normal diesel oil. The lead isn't that far out of line so don't get all freaked out. Im just telling you if your wondering where it came from. I agree with addyguy. It looks like delvac. It can't be delo400 because they use around 100ppm moly. I didn't know you could put so many miles on a motorcycle? That's amazing!


Edited by motor_oil_madman (06/15/11 10:53 AM)
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#2288659 - 06/15/11 12:08 PM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Rick_A]
Jim 5 Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 4009
Loc: Calgary Canada
Comparing this 8K mile run to the 4K mile run on Redline makes it fairly obvious that 15w-40 HDEO is very good value and protection for your bike.
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07.5 GMC Sierra 2500HD LMM Rotella 15w-40
09 Odyssey EX-L CT 5w-20
66 Bronco QS 10w-30
08 BMW K1200S Rt 15w-40
08 Pitster Pro X4 Rt 15w-40

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#2288713 - 06/15/11 01:13 PM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Jim 5]
Rick_A Offline


Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 106
Loc: Riverside Calif
Originally Posted By: Jim 5
Comparing this 8K mile run to the 4K mile run on Redline makes it fairly obvious that 15w-40 HDEO is very good value and protection for your bike.


Jim, the HDEOs are a great value but the Redline was in the bike for 12,000 miles total. I ran it 8,000 miles and took a sample but did not change it. Then I ran it for 4,000 more miles for a total of 12,000 miles.

Rick

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#2288754 - 06/15/11 02:12 PM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Rick_A]
sunruh Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 1621
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
i think the ST results speak for itself. at least in your bike.

no reason to complain at all!
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#2288885 - 06/15/11 05:01 PM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: sunruh]
Rick_A Offline


Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 106
Loc: Riverside Calif
Originally Posted By: sunruh
i think the ST results speak for itself. at least in your bike.

no reason to complain at all!


A pretty good report. It took me a while, but I finally did a run with ST.

Rick

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#2288965 - 06/15/11 06:29 PM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Rick_A]
Tay Offline


Registered: 01/12/11
Posts: 56
Loc: Asia
sorry to borrow Rick A thread. i am also thinking of changing to HDEO. does this Castrol RX new gen look like an decent oil? i can get it for free from a friend's workshop.

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9009757&contentId=7018633

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#2290243 - 06/17/11 06:45 AM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Tay]
ridehike Offline


Registered: 10/08/09
Posts: 50
Loc: North Carolina
Good Report!

Been running SuperTech or Delvac 15W40, depending on best deal found, in four motorcycles, 87 Toyota pickup, and 93 Miata.

The ST filter in your bike did a good job, too.

Looking for ST 15W40 last night at Walmarte', but there were not any quart or gallon bottles left on the shelf. Ended up buying a two gallon bottle of ST 15W40 for around $21.

Thanks for posting the report!
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#2290578 - 06/17/11 02:31 PM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Rick_A]
Jim 5 Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 4009
Loc: Calgary Canada
I stand corrected.

In any case, we can say two things.

1. Rotella is a good oil for bikes that need an oil of this viscosity and a JASO MA rating.

2. ST1100's are easy on oil.
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07.5 GMC Sierra 2500HD LMM Rotella 15w-40
09 Odyssey EX-L CT 5w-20
66 Bronco QS 10w-30
08 BMW K1200S Rt 15w-40
08 Pitster Pro X4 Rt 15w-40

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#2292145 - 06/19/11 04:40 PM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Jim 5]
Mackelroy Offline


Registered: 12/03/04
Posts: 762
Loc: Florida /Texas
883ppm is very low calcium for a diesil oil, that's unusual.

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#2292504 - 06/20/11 04:29 AM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Mackelroy]
chevrofreak Offline


Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 4911
Loc: Billings, MT
Originally Posted By: Mackelroy
883ppm is very low calcium for a diesil oil, that's unusual.


Somewhat. The magnesium level is higher than usually seen, though.

I'm not sure that I agree that this is definitely rebadged Delvac, as I've seen similar numbers from CJ-4 WPP Super Tech.
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#2292648 - 06/20/11 10:33 AM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Rick_A]
sunruh Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 1621
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
my tests show that if ST is delvac, then ST is getting the better lot and xom is selling the c r a p version!

susvis of 75.0 vs 69.8 for same use time.
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#2293439 - 06/21/11 04:28 AM Re: SuperTech 15W40, 8,043mi OCI, Honda ST1100 [Re: Rick_A]
chevrofreak Offline


Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 4911
Loc: Billings, MT
They do have very, very similar additive levels.
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