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#1964121 - 07/24/10 08:19 AM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same b [Re: FZ1]
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Registered: 01/31/04
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For some reason the CLS or Pros on this site are not helping out. I found some excellent papers from some smart guy at ZDDPlus and here's one to help understand the WHY in this thread.
enjoy
http://www.kirbanperformance.com/product_images/customer_support_item-_pdf-37.pdf

This site was way better a few years ago. [censored] happened to it. Seemed to go to [censored] after Bob left and Terry was forced to leave.

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#1968882 - 07/28/10 10:05 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same b [Re: quick_16]
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Registered: 01/02/10
Posts: 7
Loc: CA, USA
I hang out where Terry is much more-so than here.....
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#1970826 - 07/30/10 08:42 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same b [Re: revupVQ]
quick_16 Offline


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Originally Posted By: revupVQ
I hang out where Terry is much more-so than here.....

Post or PM me a link. thanks

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#2240511 - 04/22/11 08:02 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same b [Re: Mystic]
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Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 13
Loc: NY, USA
How can you spot a trend if the VOA's are very inconsistent? If they can't get that right what use is the UOA?
Like you I'd like to be able to use this stuff but the numbers tell the truth....don't waste your $$.


Edited by SailingWJ (04/22/11 08:03 PM)

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#2240534 - 04/22/11 08:19 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same b [Re: deeter16317]
SailingWJ Offline


Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 13
Loc: NY, USA
Another words you can't believe what you see? Please you should run for President.

Originally Posted By: deeter16317
In the realm of things...

Blackstone WAS consistent with their analyses, which shows they are consistent in their analytical methodology. That shows me that they would be somewhat reliable for trending purposes.

All three labs were within the same order of magnitude, which is well within accepted "noise" so-to-speak. It could also be related to different instruments or different analytical methods.

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#2242522 - 04/25/11 08:31 AM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same b [Re: SailingWJ]
Spockian1 Offline


Registered: 04/03/11
Posts: 43
Loc: Miami, FL
Indeed. The only "trending" these reports are good for is the labs' quarterly balance sheets.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the labs don't have shills here to cry "trending!" whenever yet more evidence of the worthlessness of their reports surfaces.

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#2257140 - 05/10/11 03:56 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same bott [Re: Drew99GT]
HondaMan Offline


Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 671
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: elwaylite
I think Ill spend my $99 with Dyson.


He uses Blackstone!


No, he does not. Having used Terry's service many times, I know the address the samples go to and it has nothing to do with Blackstone.

What I do wonder about if he in some way uses Polaris ... i.e. samples go to a common and close by address and then are dropped at the Polaris door step.

OAI I feel is the BEST value, period. This is the Amsoil offering which is simply private label Polaris.

As Pablo has stated Polaris is ISO certified.

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#2257435 - 05/10/11 09:59 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same b [Re: SailingWJ]
chevrofreak Offline


Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 4912
Loc: Billings, MT
Originally Posted By: SailingWJ
Another words you can't believe what you see? Please you should run for President.

Originally Posted By: deeter16317
In the realm of things...

Blackstone WAS consistent with their analyses, which shows they are consistent in their analytical methodology. That shows me that they would be somewhat reliable for trending purposes.

All three labs were within the same order of magnitude, which is well within accepted "noise" so-to-speak. It could also be related to different instruments or different analytical methods.


You mean "In other words", correct?
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#2257518 - 05/11/11 01:55 AM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same bott [Re: HondaMan]
revupVQ Offline


Registered: 01/02/10
Posts: 7
Loc: CA, USA
Originally Posted By: HondaMan
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: elwaylite
I think Ill spend my $99 with Dyson.


He uses Blackstone!


No, he does not. Having used Terry's service many times, I know the address the samples go and it has nothing to do with Blackstone.

What I do wonder about if he in some way uses Polaris ... i.e. samples go to a common and close by address and then are dropped at the Polaris door step.

OAI I feel is the BEST value, period. This is the Amsoil offering which is simply private label Polaris.

As Pablo has stated Polaris is ISO certified.
Terry doesn't use Polaris aka OAI lol. MRT Laboratories is real, Google it wink
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#2259993 - 05/13/11 01:00 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same bott [Re: 21Rouge]
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Registered: 02/03/10
Posts: 1720
Loc: Cocoa, FL
Last I've heard/read, when you send off a sample to "Blackstone" it may actually get "sent off" to another lab to be tested, so there's no guarantee the same lab/tech is actually testing the same sample(s) each and every time.

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#2272333 - 05/27/11 11:55 AM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same bott [Re: 21Rouge]
PZR2874 Offline


Registered: 05/06/11
Posts: 499
Loc: San Antonio, TX
^^ Where did you get/read this... Please share.
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#2272336 - 05/27/11 11:59 AM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same bott [Re: PZR2874]
21Rouge Offline


Registered: 06/04/05
Posts: 1943
Loc: Vinegar Hill
Originally Posted By: PZR2874
^^ Where did you get/read this... Please share.


Not sure what you mean ???.


Edited by 21Rouge (05/27/11 12:00 PM)

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#2274565 - 05/30/11 12:32 PM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same bott [Re: 21Rouge]
Galo Offline


Registered: 08/24/08
Posts: 23
Loc: Indy IN
This from the Blackstone site;

"We have some of these tests performed at a different facility. For that reason, it can take longer to get results for some of these specialized tests. If you are concerned with turnaroud time, please call us."

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#2275345 - 05/31/11 11:42 AM Re: 3 diff. labs with samples taken frm the same bott [Re: 21Rouge]
PZR2874 Offline


Registered: 05/06/11
Posts: 499
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Wow... Outsourcing to another lab....
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