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#2270021 - 05/24/11 06:54 PM All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets
Loobed Offline


Registered: 07/20/07
Posts: 3742
Loc: Northern California, USA


Here is a list of additive ppm for Valvoline oils.
This was taken from their product data sheet.
Effective 12-15-2010
TBN and Calcium is higher in Max Life; which also has moly.
No other type has Moly, not even the racing oil.
Synpower 5w-40 HST has the highest amount of Calcium.


VALVOLINE PREMIUM CONVENTIONAL MOTOR OIL
SAE 5W-20; SAE 5W-30; SAE 10W-30; SAE 10W-40;
SAE 20W-50; SAE 30; SAE 40; SAE 50

Zinc 830
Phosphorus 760
Calcium 1670
Sodium 490
TBN 7.3

VALVOLINE NextGen™ CONVENTIONAL MOTOR OIL
SAE 5W-20; SAE 5W-30; SAE 10W-30; SAE 10W-40

Zinc 830
Phosphorus 760
Calcium 1670
Sodium 490
TBN 7.3

VALVOLINE MaxLife™ Motor Oil
SAE 5W-20; SAE 5W-30; SAE 10W-30; SAE 10W-40; SAE 20W-50; SAE 30

Zinc 830
Phosphorus 760
Calcium 2110
Moly 140
Sodium 490
TBN 8.7

VALVOLINE NextGen MaxLife™ Motor Oil
SAE 5W-20; SAE 5W-30; SAE 10W-30; SAE 10W-40

Zinc 830
Phosphorus 760
Calcium 2110
Moly 140
Sodium 490
TBN 8.7

VALVOLINE SYNPOWER MOTOR OIL: ILSAC Grades
0W-20; 5W-20; 5W-30; 10W-30

Zinc 830
Phosphorus 760
Calcium 2110
Sodium 490
TBN 8.7

VALVOLINE SYNPOWER MOTOR OIL: non-ILSAC Grades
5W-30 MST; 5W-40 MST; 5W-40 HST; 20W-50

Zinc 840 (5w-40 has 990)
Phosphorus 770 (5w-40 has 900)
Calcium 1930 (5w-40 has 3260)
Sodium (none listed)
TBN 7.0

VALVOLINE VR-1 RACING MOTOR OIL
20W-50; 10w-30; SAE 30; SAE 40; SAE 50

Zinc 1400
Phosphorus 1300
Calcium 2100
Sodium 490
TBN 8.5

No Data for VALVOLINE VR-1 RACING (SYNTHETIC) MOTOR OIL
10w-30; 20w-50
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#2270026 - 05/24/11 06:58 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: Loobed]
Loobed Offline


Registered: 07/20/07
Posts: 3742
Loc: Northern California, USA


Compare those numbers with Blackstone's numbers. They are off.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2194500#Post2194500
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#2270098 - 05/24/11 08:23 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: Loobed]
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Posts: 13398
Loc: Michigan
That simply can't be right.....only 8.7 TBN on synpower?


Where's durablend??
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#2270127 - 05/24/11 08:55 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: daves87rs]
bodeh6 Offline


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Posts: 616
Loc: Metro Detroit, MI
Synpower never started with a high TBN. So it is correct.
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#2270128 - 05/24/11 08:56 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: daves87rs]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 1904
Loc: Oswego, IL
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
That simply can't be right.....only 8.7 TBN on synpower?

This is true. Synpower has a low starting TBN as do most Valvoline oils.

Thank you for putting this together.
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#2270190 - 05/24/11 10:22 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: Loobed]
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Loc: Ankeny, IA
too low of a tbn for my oci's, lol
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#2270217 - 05/24/11 10:56 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: Loobed]
motorguy222 Offline


Registered: 03/19/04
Posts: 1801
Loc: Ky
Super Tech in the SN version looks better than these.Here are the latest SN PDS's for ST SN in 10W-30 and 10W-40.

10W-30

Physical Specifications
Procedure Test Min Max Typical Results
ASTM D4052 Specific Gravity at 60°F NA NA 0.8717
ASTM D287 API Gravity NA NA 30.83
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 100°C, cSt 9.3 <12.5 10.29
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 40°C, cSt NA NA 67.73
ASTM D2270 Viscosity Index NA NA 138
ASTM D1500 ASTM Color NA NA 2.5
ASTM D5293 Cold Cranking Simulator, cP NA 7000 6249
ASTM D5185 Zinc, % mass NA NA 0.085
ASTM D4951 Phosphorus, % mass 0.06 0.08 0.077
ASTM D5185 Calcium, % mass NA NA 0.214
ASTM D5185 Molybdenum, % mass NA NA 0.0079
ASTM D5185 Boron, % mass NA NA 0.023
ASTM D4951 Sulfur, % mass NA 0.5 0.309
ASTM D5762 Nitrogen, % mass NA NA 0.102
ASTM D874 Sulfated Ash, % mass NA NA 0.92
TM
Conventional 10W-30 API Performance SN/GF-5
• Super Tech ConventionalMotor Oil contains only the highest quality, hydro-treated lubricating oils and a technologically advanced additive
system, which includes detergents, dispersants, viscosity improver, anti-wear and anti-friction agents as well as oxidation and corrosion
inhibitors.
• Reduced friction for excellent protection against wear and improved fuel economy
• High resistance to viscosity and thermal breakdown
• Meets or exceeds the latest North American vehicle warranty requirements API SN and previous API engines classifications SM, SL, SJ, SH
and ILSAC GF-3, GF-4 and GF-5.
12/9/2010

10W-40

Physical Specifications
Procedure Test Min Max Typical Results
ASTM D4052 Specific Gravity at 60°F NA NA 0.8710
ASTM D287 API Gravity NA NA 30.96
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 100°C, cSt N/A N/A 15.33
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 40°C, cSt NA NA 106.5
ASTM D2270 Viscosity Index NA NA 152
ASTM D1500 ASTM Color NA NA 2.5
ASTM D5293 Cold Cranking Simulator, cP NA N/A 6771
ASTM D5185 Zinc, % mass NA NA 0.091
ASTM D4951 Phosphorus, % mass 0.06 0.08 0.079
ASTM D5185 Calcium, % mass NA NA 0.169
ASTM D5185 Molybdenum, % mass NA NA 0.0079
ASTM D5185 Boron, % mass NA NA 0.023
ASTM D4951 Sulfur, % mass NA 0.5 0.315
ASTM D5762 Nitrogen, % mass NA NA 0.102
ASTM D874 Sulfated Ash, % mass NA NA 0.92
TM

• Meets or exceeds the latest North American vehicle warranty requirements API SN and previous API engines classifications SM, SL, SJ, SH

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#2270529 - 05/25/11 11:14 AM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: daves87rs]
Loobed Offline


Registered: 07/20/07
Posts: 3742
Loc: Northern California, USA
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
That simply can't be right.....only 8.7 TBN on synpower?


Where's durablend??



Sorry, I forgot. Here is more.




VALVOLINE MaxLife™ Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30; SAE 10W-30

Zinc 830
Phosphorus 760
Calcium 1910
Moly 300
TBN 8.3

VALVOLINE DURABLEND MOTOR OIL
0W-20; 5W-20; 5W-30; 10W-30

Zinc 830
Phosphorus 760
Calcium 2110
Sodium 490
TBN 8.7

Valvoline All-Fleet® Plus Engine Oil
15W-40; 10W-30;

Zinc 1270
TBN 10

10W; 20W; 30; 40; 50

Zinc 1260
TBN 7

Valvoline’s Premium Blue® Extreme Engine Oil
SAE 5W-40

TBN 10

Valvoline’s Premium Blue® Engine Oil
15W-40

TBN 10


VALVOLINE 4-STROKE MOTORCYCLE OILS
SAE 10W-40; SAE 20W-50

Zinc 1120
Phosphorus 1030
Calcium 1820
Sodium 520
TBN 8

Valvoline ATV 4 Stroke SAE 10W-40 Oil

Zinc 1020
Phosphorus 930
Calcium 1620
Sodium 470
TBN 7



Edited by Loobed (05/25/11 11:17 AM)
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#2287067 - 06/13/11 02:44 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: Loobed]
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Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 12335
Loc: Silicon Valley
If the data is correct, then the additive level and TBN of ILSAC SynPower is identical to MaxLife. Does that means the only difference is the synthetic vs a blend base stock?

Also MaxLife Syn actually has more moly, less calcium, and lower TBN. That means MaxLife Syn is actually a better oil (if viscosity is right) than SynPower.
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#2287157 - 06/13/11 04:35 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: PandaBear]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4261
Loc: .
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Also MaxLife Syn actually has more moly, less calcium, and lower TBN. That means MaxLife Syn is actually a better oil (if viscosity is right) than SynPower.


The lower TBN does not mean that it is not a better oil. The base stock on the full syn is better even though it has a lower starting TBN, the TBN retention is/should be better. TBN retention is not linear. The same situation with the new Mobil Super. Mobil super conventional has a TBN of ~7.7 and the new Super Syn has a TBN of ~7.0. The Super Syn is guarenteed to 7500 where as the convention is only guarenteed to 5000 miles. Better base stocks makes up for the TBN.
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#2885247 - 01/26/13 11:03 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: Loobed]
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Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29114
Loc: NJ
I recently saw a 5w20 SN Synpower UOA on another forum and it had no moly, which is a change. Still Na for a detergent.
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#2885260 - 01/26/13 11:59 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: motorguy222]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7102
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: motorguy222
Super Tech in the SN version looks better than these.Here are the latest SN PDS's for ST SN in 10W-30 and 10W-40.

10W-30

Physical Specifications
Procedure Test Min Max Typical Results
ASTM D4052 Specific Gravity at 60°F NA NA 0.8717
ASTM D287 API Gravity NA NA 30.83
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 100°C, cSt 9.3 <12.5 10.29
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 40°C, cSt NA NA 67.73
ASTM D2270 Viscosity Index NA NA 138
ASTM D1500 ASTM Color NA NA 2.5
ASTM D5293 Cold Cranking Simulator, cP NA 7000 6249
ASTM D5185 Zinc, % mass NA NA 0.085
ASTM D4951 Phosphorus, % mass 0.06 0.08 0.077
ASTM D5185 Calcium, % mass NA NA 0.214
ASTM D5185 Molybdenum, % mass NA NA 0.0079
ASTM D5185 Boron, % mass NA NA 0.023
ASTM D4951 Sulfur, % mass NA 0.5 0.309
ASTM D5762 Nitrogen, % mass NA NA 0.102
ASTM D874 Sulfated Ash, % mass NA NA 0.92
TM
Conventional 10W-30 API Performance SN/GF-5
• Super Tech ConventionalMotor Oil contains only the highest quality, hydro-treated lubricating oils and a technologically advanced additive
system, which includes detergents, dispersants, viscosity improver, anti-wear and anti-friction agents as well as oxidation and corrosion
inhibitors.
• Reduced friction for excellent protection against wear and improved fuel economy
• High resistance to viscosity and thermal breakdown
• Meets or exceeds the latest North American vehicle warranty requirements API SN and previous API engines classifications SM, SL, SJ, SH
and ILSAC GF-3, GF-4 and GF-5.
12/9/2010

10W-40

Physical Specifications
Procedure Test Min Max Typical Results
ASTM D4052 Specific Gravity at 60°F NA NA 0.8710
ASTM D287 API Gravity NA NA 30.96
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 100°C, cSt N/A N/A 15.33
ASTM D445 Viscosity at 40°C, cSt NA NA 106.5
ASTM D2270 Viscosity Index NA NA 152
ASTM D1500 ASTM Color NA NA 2.5
ASTM D5293 Cold Cranking Simulator, cP NA N/A 6771
ASTM D5185 Zinc, % mass NA NA 0.091
ASTM D4951 Phosphorus, % mass 0.06 0.08 0.079
ASTM D5185 Calcium, % mass NA NA 0.169
ASTM D5185 Molybdenum, % mass NA NA 0.0079
ASTM D5185 Boron, % mass NA NA 0.023
ASTM D4951 Sulfur, % mass NA 0.5 0.315
ASTM D5762 Nitrogen, % mass NA NA 0.102
ASTM D874 Sulfated Ash, % mass NA NA 0.92
TM

• Meets or exceeds the latest North American vehicle warranty requirements API SN and previous API engines classifications SM, SL, SJ, SH


So basically their add packs are the same across the board,just be basestock changes?
They must have some organic adds that we can't see mixed in there somewhere. These add packs look weak other than the VR-1 but they seem to put out good uoa,unless you don't need a strong additive package?
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#3114041 - 09/03/13 09:05 PM Re: All Valvoline oils: from thier data sheets [Re: Loobed]
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Loc: MEMPHIS, TN
looks like valvoline has gotten the "3000 mile interval" literally down to a science. looks like im going to be swinging to PP and motorcraft.
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