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#2260902 - 05/14/11 01:48 PM Damaged Purolator Classic
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 6635
Loc: PNW
Purolator Classic, L14459. This filter only had 5000 miles on it. Discovered the media was torn at the base of the pleat near the seam. This pleat was spaced wide and apparently folded over from the oil flow, and the base of the pleat that caused it to tear on both ends. Photo shows the largest tear.

The media seemed too "brittle" and I could make it tear easily by simply just pushing the pleats sideways when spreading the pleats apart for debris inspection.

Probably tore in early use ... guess I had a built in "bypass" filter setup. crazy At least no media went down into the engine.


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#2260907 - 05/14/11 01:54 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
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Loc: North Carolina
Send this to Purolator; they will want to see it.
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#2260919 - 05/14/11 02:00 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: Hokiefyd]
Bluestream Offline


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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Send this to Purolator; they will want to see it.

X2, i'm sure thay will send you a case of free filters... banana
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#2260920 - 05/14/11 02:00 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Send this to Purolator; they will want to see it.

I agree...send the filter to Purolator but I'm sure this is a rare situation.....Purolator make great filters!


Edited by Oregoonian (05/14/11 02:01 PM)
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#2260934 - 05/14/11 02:14 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
pzev Offline


Registered: 11/30/05
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Loc: arctic
You sure you didn't accidentally rip it when you removed it from the can? I'm having a hard time seeing how that could be caused by oil pressure, unless it was damaged during assembly. Wouldn't oil pressure be equal from all sides of the pleat? That wouldn't lend itself to that type of failure, where it looks like it was pushed in from the front or side. A blowout whole would be one thing, but that simply looks like it was ripped apart.

I'm with the others, contact Purolator.

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#2260952 - 05/14/11 02:28 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
Silver02ex Offline


Registered: 09/15/04
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Loc: Hillsboro, OR
I had a tear in a PureOne recently but it wasn't as bad as yours. This goes to show that every brand of filter has issues.
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#2260960 - 05/14/11 02:38 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: pzev]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
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Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: pzev
You sure you didn't accidentally rip it when you removed it from the can?


I've cut many filters open, and have two different filter cutters. I'm sure it was not damaged during the filter cutting & extracting.

Originally Posted By: pzev
I'm having a hard time seeing how that could be caused by oil pressure, unless it was damaged during assembly. Wouldn't oil pressure be equal from all sides of the pleat?


It's the oil flow trying to flatten out that pleat that caused the pleat to tear at the base where it's solidly glued to the end cap. It was tore on both ends of the pleat.

That's why it's very important for any oil filter to have evenly spaced pleats with none that are wide open and susceptible to oil flow trying to flatten them down. That's what causes stress on the pleats. Most filters I've seen have the most uneven pleat spacing near the seam ... Purolators seem to be this way, and that was the cause of this failure - along with media that seems to tear easily.

Originally Posted By: pzev
That wouldn't lend itself to that type of failure, where it looks like it was pushed in from the front or side. A blowout whole would be one thing, but that simply looks like it was ripped apart.


It was ripped at the base of the pleat. Like I said before, if I simply push a good pleat to the side a little ways the root of the pleat starts to tear pretty easily. The media seems way to brittle and tears very easily on this particular filter.

Originally Posted By: pzev
I'm with the others, contact Purolator.


I will definitely email Purolator with the photos and the "Made on" info on the dome end of the filter.

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#2261038 - 05/14/11 04:28 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 7877
Loc: The Old North State
As said here frequently, any filter can have a defect from time to time, Puro no exception. I would agree that it likely happened early on, perhaps while the media was still somewhat more stiff/brittle.

Be a good one to box up and ship to Puro for inspection and comments. Or perhaps pics would be enough.

Used many of the L14459 on a Civic to 5-6k OCI's, and cut several open and posted here. Never found an issue, however as shown here, the first pleat to one side of the seam pleat is farther apart than the others.

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#2261051 - 05/14/11 04:47 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: sayjac]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 6635
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: sayjac
As said here frequently, any filter can have a defect from time to time, Puro no exception.


Yeah, any filter can have a problem now and then. Whatever controls the pleat spacing must have glitched that day.

I think the Classic might have more brittle media than the PureOne from my memory after handing both and spreading the pleats apart for inspection.

One thing I noticed is this filter has 59 pleats including the seam pleat. My records clearly show that the PureOne PL14459 I ran the last oil change had 61 pleats including the seam pleat. Wonder if this one somehow was minus a couple of pleats it should have had, and therefore this one pleat near the seam got a large spacing (?).

Originally Posted By: sayjac
Used many of the L14459 on a Civic to 5-6k OCI's, and cut several open and posted here. Never found an issue, however as shown here, the first pleat to one side of the seam pleat is farther apart than the others.


This is the first filter I've ever witnessed a problem with after cutting open many oil filters.

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#2261072 - 05/14/11 05:13 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 7877
Loc: The Old North State
Below is a comparison of the same app L14459 I cut open in 2010. 60 pleats not including the seam. Note the spacing next to the seam, but still intact in pic below. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2056548

And then the the latest L14459 I cut open, also 60 pleats. Still wider spacing at seam, but no issues.








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#2261083 - 05/14/11 05:31 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
mongo161 Offline


Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 3198
Loc: Coney Island, NY
I guess it goes to show us that ANY oil filter can have issues from time to time. At least you caught it in time and did not run the filter for an extended period of time.
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#2261164 - 05/14/11 07:34 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
kender Offline


Registered: 12/14/06
Posts: 329
Loc: Late, Great USA
I'm no "expert" like you. But I'd say it got damaged when you opened it. whistle
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#2261210 - 05/14/11 08:41 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: kender]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 6635
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: kender
I'm no "expert" like you. But I'd say it got damaged when you opened it. whistle


Nope ... use a filter cutter. And besides, BOTH ends of that folded down pleat has tears in the media.

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#2261329 - 05/14/11 10:41 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: ZeeOSix]
ltslimjim Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
Posts: 5143
Loc: PL&F
It's like the part that wanted to 'wave', failed to comply on that one pleat. My only 'beef' with Purolators. OTOH, I suppose if it didn't give perhaps that caused the rip(if during operation), then again it could be from the factory assembly. Either way, I believe a replacement at least should be in order from Purolator.
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#2261350 - 05/14/11 11:07 PM Re: Damaged Purolator Classic [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 2085
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Send this to Purolator; they will want to see it.


+1 Purolator has stepped up their PR. I would contact them.
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