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#2240682 - 04/22/11 10:56 PM LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K
azsynthetic Offline


Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 1232
Loc: Phoenix AZ
The first 20K UOA is here:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1953299#Post1953299

Miles on car 231,143, miles on oil 41,023 miles

Total oil used is 7 Liters of LiquiMoly Longtime Hightech 5W30 and 2 quarts of Redline 30WT race oil and 8oz of Z-MAX. One VW full flow filter and an Amsoil BE-90 were used.

First column is UOA at 20K, second column is UOA at 41K. All UOAs were done by Polaris lab.

Iron...............23..........45
Chromium........1..........1
Nickle..... .......0..........1
Aluminum.........5..........4
Copper............3..........5
Lead...............3..........7
Silicon.............9..........8
Sodium............6..........3
Molybdenum......311........273
Antimony..........2..........0
Manganese.......0..........1
Boron..............27........20
Magnesium.......172.......142
Calcium...........2770......2701
Phosphorus.......1577......1353
Zinc............ ..1424......1382

Fuel............. 0.7%...........0.5%
Soot............. 0.1%...........0.2%
Water (IR)...... < 0.1..........< 0.1%
VIS @ 100C ..... 11.9 cSt......11.7
TBN.............. 7.39...........2.48
IR Oxidation.... 51.............53
IR Nitration..... 17.............21

The Oxidation number is due to the Red Line oil.

I refilled the car with Red Line 5W20 and replaced the full flow filter but did not replace the BE-90 since it still has very good output. I replaced the air filter but not the fuel filter.

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#2240688 - 04/22/11 11:03 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
Brons2 Offline


Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 2651
Loc: Austin, Texas
You put 5w20 in your TDI??

I know it's Red Line and all, but still!

This current report is pretty stellar, that being said. Nice results.
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#2240717 - 04/22/11 11:45 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
azsynthetic Offline


Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 1232
Loc: Phoenix AZ
After Red Line 5w20 I am going to run NEO 0W5. My goal is mileage so I am willing to sacrifice some engine protection.

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#2240850 - 04/23/11 08:30 AM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
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You went 40k miles on this oil? WOW!!!!!!
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#2240996 - 04/23/11 12:15 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
m37charlie Offline


Registered: 06/08/09
Posts: 1194
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Originally Posted By: azsynthetic
After Red Line 5w20 I am going to run NEO 0W5. My goal is mileage so I am willing to sacrifice some engine protection.


You may sacrifice your engine, with a TDI....

Charlie
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#2242421 - 04/25/11 01:09 AM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: m37charlie]
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Registered: 06/01/05
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Originally Posted By: m37charlie
Originally Posted By: azsynthetic
After Red Line 5w20 I am going to run NEO 0W5. My goal is mileage so I am willing to sacrifice some engine protection.


You may sacrifice your engine, with a TDI....

Charlie


It's his nickel. And besides, he will probably be testing frequently to see how this works out. So the oil will probably be changed before it does any significant damage.
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#2242463 - 04/25/11 04:19 AM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
azsynthetic Offline


Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 1232
Loc: Phoenix AZ
I do UOA every 10 or 20K miles so not exactly frequently.

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#2242970 - 04/25/11 04:21 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
REDDOG Offline


Registered: 09/11/04
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azsynthetic,

Very interesting, indeed! I can't wait to see the Redline 5W-20 and NEO 0W-5 tests! Thank you for posting.

REDDOG
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#2243321 - 04/25/11 09:42 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
SubLGT Offline


Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 1987
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: azsynthetic
After Red Line 5w20 I am going to run NEO 0W5. My goal is mileage so I am willing to sacrifice some engine protection.


NEO 0W5? The one that has a viscosity of 7.4, like a 0W20?

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1953271#Post1953271

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#2243526 - 04/26/11 04:22 AM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
azsynthetic Offline


Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 1232
Loc: Phoenix AZ
Yup, that is my VOA of the oil that I am going to run. Not sure what the NEO will shear down to after 10K though. Mileage is indeed up a little bit with the 5W20, so far so good.

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#2244226 - 04/26/11 05:58 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
SubLGT Offline


Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 1987
Loc: Idaho
Maybe Blackstone made a typo on your VOA, and the vis should be 4.7, not 7.4? shrug

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#2244549 - 04/26/11 10:54 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
azsynthetic Offline


Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 1232
Loc: Phoenix AZ
I don't think so. Polaris did my VOA and a friend of mine did one a while back and it was also above 7.

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#2382242 - 09/19/11 09:48 PM Re: LiquiMoly 5w30 Red Line 30WT VW GOLF TDI ALH 41K [Re: azsynthetic]
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Registered: 08/06/10
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I felt like this was worthy of a bump. This is an insane UOA.

Of course the bypass sure helped...wow.

It leaves me wondering how well it could have done without the bypass?
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