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#2143311 - 01/19/11 04:41 AM GM-LL-B-025 Specification
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Although I beleive this has been superceeded by the new GM Dexos II specification, I'm wondering if anybody has any specific information on its properties.

From what I've been able to gather I reckon it must have a HTHS of at least 3.5 cP, as I haven't seen an oil meeting this spec without an ACEA A3/B3/B4 specification. But does anybody know if there's a certain base oil that is required? Or a minimum TBN? Minimum sulfur content? Thanks! thumbsup
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#2143327 - 01/19/11 05:39 AM Re: GM-LL-B-025 Specification [Re: Falcon_LS]
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#2143328 - 01/19/11 05:43 AM Re: GM-LL-B-025 Specification [Re: Falcon_LS]
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GM (OPEL) SPECIFICATIONS

The manufacturer requires for all vehicles the European specifications ACEA A3-98 and B3-98 with different viscosimetric grades - SAE 0/5/10 W - 30/40 with oil change at 15 thousand km or 1 year with Euro 2 engines (manufactured before 2001) and 30 thousand km or 1 year with Euro 3 engines.

In 2002 Opel also introduced the Opel Long Life Service Oils (starting from the Vectra model year 2002), a variable oil change interval that can reach 30 thousand km or 2 years for petrol engines (specification GM-LL-B-025) and 50 thousand km or 2 years for diesels 2.0 and 2.2 DTI (GM-LL-A-025).
The cars that use Opel Long Life Service Oils must pass ACEA specifications A3, B3, B4 and Opel tests B040 2095 HTHS >2.9 and B040 2098 for lubricants with HTHS >3.5.
This lubricant qualification system has been developed with the support of independent German laboratories who perform engine tests (for wear, deposits and F.E.) or tribological ones, using Opelís procedures.
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#2143781 - 01/19/11 03:01 PM Re: GM-LL-B-025 Specification [Re: Falcon_LS]
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Thanks very much, Bob! thumbsup
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#2143992 - 01/19/11 07:13 PM Re: GM-LL-B-025 Specification [Re: Falcon_LS]
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#2149446 - 01/24/11 01:10 PM Re: GM-LL-B-025 Specification [Re: toyota62]
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It seems the specs got mixed up in this thread, GM-LL-A-025 is the petrol spec and GM-LL-B-025 is the diesel one. The interesting thing is that most ACEA A3/B4 oils meet the diesel spec, but not the petrol one.
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