Recent Topics
Marvel Mystery oil
by ron17571
2 minutes 1 second ago
ethanol
by ron17571
8 minutes 48 seconds ago
Bypass filters.
by ron17571
15 minutes 0 seconds ago
My two cents.
by ron17571
Today at 10:15 PM
best 0w40 -5w40 diesel engine oil ?!
by 35445
Today at 09:57 PM
Hankook iPike - first impressions
by OVERKILL
Today at 09:24 PM
michelin pilot hx mxm4
by hardcore302
Today at 08:45 PM
Kitchen floor grout question
by dja4260
Today at 07:56 PM
150K on the old Bey-Em-Vey today!
by fdcg27
Today at 06:03 PM
0W-30 Mobil-1 $20/5 quart jug at local AutoZone
by wgtoys
Today at 05:43 PM
how to change tire while driving
by friendly_jacek
Today at 05:29 PM
LC20 and varnish removal
by boy412
Today at 04:44 PM
Newest Members
ron17571, eajones, Baldur, xc_racer, walken100
51998 Registered Users
Who's Online
66 registered (Bandito440, aquariuscsm, 01_celica_gt, 123Saab, abycat, 5 invisible), 1063 Guests and 173 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51998 Members
66 Forums
222613 Topics
3523918 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#2140117 - 01/16/11 09:31 AM Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 8075
Loc: MN
It's going to be 20 to 30 Below Zero air temps when we drive mornings here in Minnesota this entire week. Highs 0 to 5 Below.

So, which of these 4 additives I currently have should I put in the tanks of my Sierra (that sits outside), the Saturn & the Camry? I think I know, but want your input!

MMO?
Seafoam?
Techrom?
Amsoil PI?




_________________________
03 GMC Sierra 4x4 200k, M1 TDT
00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car. 84k Miles! PU
98 Saturn SC2 "Red Hot" PYB + LubeGard + Kreen
97 Camry 212k Maxlife


Top
#2140130 - 01/16/11 09:41 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 20815
Loc: Colorado Springs
Is your concern about fuel freezing? If so, gas with ethanol helps eliminate that problem, so you may not need a fuel additive.

Top
#2140135 - 01/16/11 09:44 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
Craig in Canada Offline


Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 1995
Loc: Toronto-ish, Canada
You forgot "none" on your list. What's the purpose of the additive? Why are you running one? Gas is still liquid at -30F and even if there was some condensation in the system if you aren't running E0 then the ethanol in the blend will keep you running fine (as Drew says).

Top
#2140138 - 01/16/11 09:47 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Craig in Canada]
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 8075
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Craig in Canada
You forgot "none" on your list. What's the purpose of the additive? Why are you running one? Gas is still liquid at -30F and even if there was some condensation in the system if you aren't running E0 then the ethanol in the blend will keep you running fine (as Drew says).



No, I forgot to write "I don't want to read *none* in the responses" in my original post. duh
_________________________
03 GMC Sierra 4x4 200k, M1 TDT
00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car. 84k Miles! PU
98 Saturn SC2 "Red Hot" PYB + LubeGard + Kreen
97 Camry 212k Maxlife


Top
#2140142 - 01/16/11 09:52 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
sw99 Offline


Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 1446
Loc: Colorado
Most states have an ethanol blend (Most are around 10% I believe) which is the essentially the same as hat is sold as fuel antifreeze (Like you buy at Wal-Mart). Personally, I feel that you don't need it unless it make you sleep better.
_________________________
2001 Toyota Corolla LE 1.8L
2012 Honda Civic EX 1.8L
1984 Chevy K30 CCLB 7.4L/NP205/TH400

Top
#2140145 - 01/16/11 09:55 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: sw99]
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 8075
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: sw99
Most states have an ethanol blend (Most are around 10% I believe) which is the essentially the same as hat is sold as fuel antifreeze (Like you buy at Wal-Mart). Personally, I feel that you don't need it unless it make you sleep better.



Yea, I know that well & do not like it generally. 99% of the gas here is E10 stuff.

Back to topic..... So far, NO ONE has answered the question. whistle Which of the 4? grin

_________________________
03 GMC Sierra 4x4 200k, M1 TDT
00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car. 84k Miles! PU
98 Saturn SC2 "Red Hot" PYB + LubeGard + Kreen
97 Camry 212k Maxlife


Top
#2140148 - 01/16/11 09:57 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
dave123 Offline


Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 1159
Loc: wi
I would just run E10 and keep tank near full and call it a day.

Top
#2140160 - 01/16/11 10:07 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: dave123]
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 8075
Loc: MN
duh Sorry I ever brought this up. crush

UFO

I know VERY well, what gas we have, what E10 is all about and that the engines will run just fine & make it through the cold a-ok with no additive at all!!!!!!!!!!!

_________________________
03 GMC Sierra 4x4 200k, M1 TDT
00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car. 84k Miles! PU
98 Saturn SC2 "Red Hot" PYB + LubeGard + Kreen
97 Camry 212k Maxlife


Top
#2140162 - 01/16/11 10:09 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
Drew99GT Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 20815
Loc: Colorado Springs
OK then, MMO. Has a -65 degree pour point I believe.

Top
#2140166 - 01/16/11 10:12 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
BobFout Offline


Registered: 03/23/09
Posts: 2682
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: tpitcher
It's going to be 20 to 30 Below Zero air temps when we drive mornings here in Minnesota this entire week. Highs 0 to 5 Below.

So, which of these 4 additives I currently have should I put in the tanks of my Sierra (that sits outside), the Saturn & the Camry? I think I know, but want your input!

MMO?
Seafoam?
Techrom?
Amsoil PI?


One of these contains alcohol, the rest don't. (Seafoam) That may impact the decision.
_________________________
2003 VW Jetta TDI, tons o' mods with turbo upgrade. Red Line 0w40.
Amsoil * Mobil 1 * Redline * Royal Purple * Castrol * Shell

Top
#2140212 - 01/16/11 10:43 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
Astro14 Offline


Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 4618
Loc: Virginia Beach
So...the point of the question is: I am going to put SOMETHING in my gas tanks for the weather...

And your frustration is that the answer consisitently seems to be "gasoline".

Sorry, I don't think any of the listed products will make any difference in the extreme cold weather performance of your vehicles.

If you're worried about starting in those temps, I would change over to a synthetic oil in the 2 vehicles that don't have it.

If your intent is to clean your fuel system, the Techron is good stuff...but it's not likely to help starting at 20 below...
_________________________
32 Packard 15W40
90 4Runner 10W40 QS4X4
92 300E 5W40 LiquiMoly
02 Volvo V70 T5 0W40 M1
02 Volvo V70 XC 5W30 PU
05 MB S600 0W40 M1
06 Corolla 5W30 Edge

Top
#2140247 - 01/16/11 11:31 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21550
Loc: NY
OK I'll bite. MMO for its UCL properties, for that first cold start in the morning when the thick cold is taking a little more time than normal finding its way to the cylinders. Even a 0W-xx oil is taking a bit longer to reach vital parts when its that cold. I think a good UCL is helpful in those extreme cold conditions, especially to rings and the cylinder walls. JMO
_________________________
GOD Bless our Troops


Top
#2140252 - 01/16/11 11:38 AM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: demarpaint]
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 8075
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
OK I'll bite. MMO for its UCL properties, for that first cold start in the morning when the thick cold is taking a little more time than normal finding its way to the cylinders. Even a 0W-xx oil is taking a bit longer to reach vital parts when its that cold. I think a good UCL is helpful in those extreme cold conditions, especially to rings and the cylinder walls. JMO


Yes! I was honestly hoping you'd chime in dermapaint... thumbsup

I was torn between the MMO & Seafoam. MMO for the lubrication properties & the Seafoam for the anti water-in-tank benefits. With the 10% ethanol junk, I'm aiming towards the MMO in all 3 vehicles.
_________________________
03 GMC Sierra 4x4 200k, M1 TDT
00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car. 84k Miles! PU
98 Saturn SC2 "Red Hot" PYB + LubeGard + Kreen
97 Camry 212k Maxlife


Top
#2140283 - 01/16/11 12:10 PM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
cjcride Offline


Registered: 11/06/09
Posts: 657
Loc: Ontario Canada
Seafoam.
_________________________
2004 Corolla



Top
#2140503 - 01/16/11 03:34 PM Re: Best Gas Additive for SUPER COLD Weather [Re: Turk]
Craig in Canada Offline


Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 1995
Loc: Toronto-ish, Canada
Originally Posted By: tpitcher


No, I forgot to write "I don't want to read *none* in the responses" in my original post. duh



So.... You have no specific reason for using an additive, but you absolutely insist that you must use one of the ones on your list? How is anyone supposed to help you answer that question?

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >