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#2127785 - 01/04/11 11:39 PM PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better?
sr17 Offline


Registered: 12/07/09
Posts: 272
Loc: Vancouver, BC
I have been using PureOne filters on my Accord since I started doing my own oil changes a couple of years ago. Seems to be it is quality filter.

Oreily (sp?) has a deal for 5 qt of SynPower and a Mobil1 filter, so I stopped by and picked it up yesterday.

I have never seen the Mobil1 filter before, but if price is any indication, it must be high end (close to twice the price of a PureOne). Are they good for extended OCI's?

If so, maybe it is a bit of a waste with SynPower, since that particular oil is not meant for extended OCI?
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#2127792 - 01/04/11 11:46 PM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
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Registered: 06/09/10
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Loc: Merritt Island FL, USA
Great filter, don't worry about the Synpower not being a good extended drain oil (it is not IMO) it is a great oil so please don't beat me up too bad. When you change the Synpower just leave the M1 on it can take 15K with a well maintained engine. They are very good quality. Keep the baby on there!
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#2127808 - 01/05/11 12:09 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
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Registered: 12/01/09
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M1 is a great filter. Not really even in the same class as the P1, not saying a p1 is bad.
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#2127811 - 01/05/11 12:12 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
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Registered: 11/07/10
Posts: 669
Loc: VA
Mobil 1 oil filters are a quality product as is the PureOne. Both are of similar construction i.e Metal end caps , silicon ADBV etc. The differences are in the filter media as the PureOne is a paper cellulose media and the Mobil 1 is a Paper Cellulose/Synthetic material hybrid. I would just use the Mobil filter as you would a PureOne in your regular oci, no need to continue using it onto your next one.
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#2127844 - 01/05/11 01:07 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4192
Loc: Texas
M1 filters better,has a thicker can,and is purttier.

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#2127875 - 01/05/11 05:34 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 10277
Loc: The Old North State
Quote:
M1 filters better, has a thicker can, and is purttier
Can you source the M1 filters better? Better than 99.9@ 20um, really? Can thickness never been an issue IME with pc applications, even orange can.

Spurious comments aside, M1 is a fine filter and if your oci's are >10k in a year than the M1EP could be the filter of choice. Recently though one has been able to obtain ~4 P1's at AAP for the price of 1 M1. But, M1EP purchased in an oil/filter promo for an extended oci would also make the M1EP a value.

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If so, maybe it is a bit of a waste with SynPower, since that particular oil is not meant for extended OCI?
SynPower with M1EP would make a fine extended 10k+/1year oci combination, IMO.

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#2127877 - 01/05/11 05:46 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: Sayjac]
postjeeprcr Offline


Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 1808
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Quote:
M1 filters better, has a thicker can, and is purttier
Can you source the M1 filters better? Better than 99.9@ 20um, really? Can thickness never been an issue IME with pc applications, even orange can.

Spurious comments aside, M1 is a fine filter and if your oci's are >10k in a year than the M1EP could be the filter of choice. Recently though one has been able to obtain ~4 P1's at AAP for the price of 1 M1. But, M1EP purchased in an oil/filter promo for an extended oci would also make the M1EP a value.

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If so, maybe it is a bit of a waste with SynPower, since that particular oil is not meant for extended OCI?
SynPower with M1EP would make a fine extended 10k+/1year oci combination, IMO.



You really do believe what anyone will tell you. He can't prove M1 filters are better just as you can't prove a P1 is better.
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#2127883 - 01/05/11 06:01 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: postjeeprcr]
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#2127887 - 01/05/11 06:05 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 25630
Loc: NY
I've used several of the M1 filters, only if they are part of an OC special though because they are more expensive than a P1 filter. They are very well made filters, and after using them in three different applications I have no reported noise issues even if the vehicle sits for long periods of time not being used.
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#2127888 - 01/05/11 06:09 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: postjeeprcr]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 10277
Loc: The Old North State
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
You really do believe what anyone will tell you. He can't prove M1 filters are better just as you can't prove a P1 is better.
In this case, if "anyone" is the manufacturer/Purolator, correct. I can prove what the manufacturer states, can YOU prove Purolator is lying? whistle Didn't think so. Not a surprising comment though, from a dedicated Purolator hater. wink2


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#2128340 - 01/05/11 12:55 PM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
Bruce T Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 650
Loc: Oklahoma City
I'd lean towards P1 for regular intervals, M1 EP for extended. A little more filtration vs. a little more capacity and better build.

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#2128345 - 01/05/11 12:57 PM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: Sayjac]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4192
Loc: Texas
Sure,man. Daman measured the metal can thickness right here. P1 .165....M1 .180. btanchors has been running filter tests in the Uoa section. The P1 didn't filter as well as the M1. Ain't you keepin' up on current events? Point made,I have nothing against the P1 and will probably try one in the future.

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#2128643 - 01/05/11 05:44 PM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: FZ1]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 10277
Loc: The Old North State
So your source is anecdotal experience based on UOA(s), not efficiency tests? And that would have more validity than the manufacturers (P1/M1) tests of efficiency? whistle

Now, if one wants to look at anecdotal experience, river_rat's bench testing showed P1 filtration ahead of M1. It's a good read, check it out. Point made, but not taken.

Also never said M1 can wasn't thicker, said it was a non factor in my experience with pc applications.

fwiw, post never said M1 wasn't a good filter, quite the opposite. Simply defining differences and questioning sources.

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#2128856 - 01/05/11 08:37 PM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: sr17]
river_rat Offline


Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 3402
Loc: Iowa
I agree with sayjac, I don't think you can beat P1 for catching the bittiest bits the soonestest...at least for an off the shelf filter. M1 does good, though, and is tough built.

Pick your poison (and your price)

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#2129031 - 01/06/11 01:21 AM Re: PureOne vs. Mobil1 filter - which is better? [Re: Sayjac]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4192
Loc: Texas
Particle counts. You could look it up.

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