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#2024816 - 09/22/10 06:03 PM Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 5237
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Okay so i have heard some talk about Mobil 1 causing iron wear isuses, is this true?

Considering trying PU for my next fill if this is the case. How would one compare them directly not going by price.
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#2024824 - 09/22/10 06:09 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
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Very close in quality. Mobil just reformulated their line so I don't know what, if anything has changed, other than a few #'s.

Ultra is really good, but Mobil 1 is probably just as good at keeping engines clean. The other companies are simply making better oils that are as good as Mobil 1 today. Mobil's been doing it longer and is still among the best. Always has been.
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#2024827 - 09/22/10 06:12 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
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Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Okay so i have heard some talk about Mobil 1 causing iron wear isuses, is this true?

Considering trying PU for my next fill if this is the case. How would one compare them directly not going by price.


Not iron wear issues, higher iron in UOA's (and typically only 5w30). That doesn't mean it is wear.


Edited by OVERK1LL (09/22/10 06:12 PM)
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#2024832 - 09/22/10 06:17 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
Kyk noord en Offline


Registered: 09/05/10
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On the BITOG home page, at the bottom of the Main Menu is a link to the Pennzoil Q&A.

Pennzoil held an open session for questions from BITOG members, and the link is the result of that -- Pennzoil's answers to our questions. Lots of good information.

Mobil-1 recently opened a session of their own, taking all comers. At the end of this month, they'll post an answer page like Pennzoil's.

Might want to wait and read both pages back-to-back before you make a decision.

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#2024855 - 09/22/10 06:45 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
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You're comparing a top of the line product of pennzoil to a 2nd from the top product of mobil 1.

Bring in the EP if you wanna be fair!
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#2024863 - 09/22/10 06:50 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
buster Offline


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For over 34 years Mobil 1 has been among the best oils on the market. That is the only reason I've really stayed loyal to "the brand".
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#2024865 - 09/22/10 06:51 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: sangyup81]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Loc: Northern Kentucky
Well i use 5w-30 in my fills so lets try comparing the Penn Ultra to the Mobil 1 HM? I have been thinking about switching to the High Mileage because its cheaper than the EP
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#2024876 - 09/22/10 07:07 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
If you are going to compare brands, it would have to be this way.

Pennzoil Platinum to Regular Mobil 1
Pennzoil Ultra to Mobil 1 EP

Pennzoil does not have a synthetic HM engine oil, only a synthetic blend.

If you have been using Mobil 1 5W-30 and are happy with it, don't switch. Absolutely nothing wrong with any of the Mobil 1 products.

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#2024893 - 09/22/10 07:27 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: Johnny]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
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Loc: north carolina
Originally Posted By: Johnny


Pennzoil does not have a synthetic HM engine oil, only a synthetic blend.



Is pennzoil hm a synthetic blend? or just dino oil? I'm thinking of using it in my son's saturn.
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#2024900 - 09/22/10 07:38 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: spasm3]
wallyuwl Offline


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 1459
Loc: Lexington, KY
Originally Posted By: spasm3

Is pennzoil hm a synthetic blend? or just dino oil? I'm thinking of using it in my son's saturn.


Pennzoil HM is a synthetic blend. In my old truck I had some consumption, particularly at start-up and with highway driving. MaxLife had about half the consumption as Pennzoil HM in that application (Ford 4.0L).

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#2024901 - 09/22/10 07:39 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: wallyuwl]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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I am having some issues. I burn over a quart of M1 5w-30 over 5000 miles
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#2024909 - 09/22/10 07:51 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
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Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
I am having some issues. I burn over a quart of M1 5w-30 over 5000 miles


Details? How long have you been using Mobil 1? Just curious.
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#2024911 - 09/22/10 07:52 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: buster]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Been using Mobil 1 this is my 3rd fill.

Previously i was using Motorcraft Synthetic Blend and Valvoline Maxlife Syn Blend.
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#2024913 - 09/22/10 07:56 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
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Registered: 06/17/09
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Loc: CONUS
Its not the oil, its the car.

M1 or Penz win/win!
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#2024916 - 09/22/10 08:01 PM Re: Pennzoil Ultra vs Mobil 1 5w-30 [Re: 901Memphis]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29102
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Been using Mobil 1 this is my 3rd fill.

Previously i was using Motorcraft Synthetic Blend and Valvoline Maxlife Syn Blend.


Consumption has gone up since switching to Mobil 1? It's not uncommon. I don't know why that happens.
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