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#2019993 - 09/17/10 05:30 PM New model PF63, any info?
ABomb369 Offline


Registered: 04/27/09
Posts: 107
Loc: Missouri
The 3.6 motor in my new '11 Acadia specs the AC PF63 in the OM. However, the actual factory filter has a sticker that says replace with the PF48. The PF48 is what the 2010 model 3.6 motors spec'd.

I called the dealership and they confirmed that the OM is correct and that it uses the PF63 and not the PF48 as the previous model year did with the same motor and that this is a brand new part number meaning a new model filter. They also said only one dealership had any in stock in the area and that this was completely new to them.

Any parts guys out there have any info on this new filter? Does it have better filter capacity/longer life or have anything to do with the new Dexos requirement.
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#2020133 - 09/17/10 08:38 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
brights_garage Offline


Registered: 06/27/10
Posts: 38
Loc: Arkansas
Did a few searches found a Purolator cross reference L22500, 2.98 x 4.08 in, M22 x 1.5 threads, relief valve and anti drainback valve.
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#2023301 - 09/21/10 09:39 AM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
iExcel Offline


Registered: 09/07/07
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Loc: Oakville, ON, Canada
rockauto still shows the same FRAM PH10060 oil filters for both 2011 and previous years.
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#2028046 - 09/26/10 07:10 AM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
21Rouge Offline


Registered: 06/04/05
Posts: 1935
Loc: Vinegar Hill
Originally Posted By: ABomb369
The PF48 is what the 2010 model 3.6 motors spec'd.


As well as for the 09 and 08 and 07 3.6 motor (DI or otherwise).

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#2029116 - 09/27/10 10:25 AM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: 21Rouge]
BigTallV Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Canada
Looked on the GM Powertrain site and couldn't find specs on 2011 MY engine, only has archives for 2010 and prior.
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#2029584 - 09/27/10 05:58 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: iExcel]
ABomb369 Offline


Registered: 04/27/09
Posts: 107
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: iExcel
rockauto still shows the same FRAM PH10060 oil filters for both 2011 and previous years.


This is interesting as I could not find it on their site, but I was searching by vehicle and not by model of engine. I also could not get part numbers from Fram or Wix using the part number cross reference and putting in the PF63 part number.

However, it seems Purolator/Bosch are recommending the same filter that is there replacement for the PF48 when you cross reference it to the PF63 and Champ Labs specs the PH500 filter for the '11 model year instead of the PH48 (same as PF48) recommended on the previous 3.6DI models.
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#2029586 - 09/27/10 06:00 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
ABomb369 Offline


Registered: 04/27/09
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Loc: Missouri
The PF63 filter also appears to be a larger filter than the previous PF48 model which makes me wonder why the move to a larger filter on this motor?
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#2031982 - 09/29/10 06:02 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
ABomb369 Offline


Registered: 04/27/09
Posts: 107
Loc: Missouri
After much research on this model filter it appears that it is the basically the Champ Labs PH500 model. The PH500 model has only had previous applications for Chrysler and Ford and thus why it appears to be new to GM and have limited availability under the ACDelco brand. This new filter for the 3.6 engine appears to just be a longer version of the existing PF48 model.

PH500
Buyers Guide Application Dodge/Jeep V6 3.7L (2009-11), Ford Products V6 (2009-11) (Chrysler 5184231AA)

O.D.: 2.96 [75mm]
Height: 4.44 [113mm]

I.D.: M22 x 1.5 Special Thd.
Anti-Drain: Yes

Relief Valve: Yes
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#2033475 - 10/01/10 05:43 AM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
21Rouge Offline


Registered: 06/04/05
Posts: 1935
Loc: Vinegar Hill
There have now been many UOAs for this DI engine (MY 09 and 10) and many of us concluded based on these #s that this engine is hard on oil. However the one consistently good score has been the "insolubles" which does lead one to conclude that the good old PF48 does just fine filtering the oil.

So given this observation I have no idea the reason for this new PF63 filter. shrug

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#2066259 - 11/03/10 11:48 AM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
Barky Offline


Registered: 11/03/10
Posts: 3
Loc: IL, USA
They appear to be specifying these for 2011s only. Also Anything 2011 and up is to get Dexos semi-synthetic oil. We do not have 63s yet, so the 48 is an approved alternative until the 63 comes in. We have had a few Acadia/Enclaves come in with oil related problems. ie: cam chains and such. People run the oil change interval so long with the reminder light and they never bother to check the oil level. I am told oil level sensors are making a return this year. GM is obviously taking a proactive approach with the semi-synth oil and the level sensors. I'm not sure what role the PF 63 is to play in that.

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#2066372 - 11/03/10 02:17 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: Barky]
21Rouge Offline


Registered: 06/04/05
Posts: 1935
Loc: Vinegar Hill
Originally Posted By: Barky
They appear to be specifying these for 2011s only.

We do not have 63s yet, so the 48 is an approved alternative until the 63 comes in.


Because of this Barky does it not make sense that the PF63 could/should be back spec'd to earlier MY Lambdas (which is spec'd for the PF48)?

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#2066378 - 11/03/10 02:23 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: 21Rouge]
Barky Offline


Registered: 11/03/10
Posts: 3
Loc: IL, USA
I would certainly think that the 63 would be back speced. We will have to wait and see what GM wants, but if it were mine, I would insist on the new filter for my 07-10 once they are available.

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#2066389 - 11/03/10 02:42 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: Barky]
21Rouge Offline


Registered: 06/04/05
Posts: 1935
Loc: Vinegar Hill
So why hasnt GM officially back spec'd the filter for earlier MYs? shrug

Due to the seemingly high # of timing chain issues on these vehicles I worry about using *any* filter in my 09 Traverse other than the OEM PF48.


Edited by 21Rouge (11/03/10 02:56 PM)

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#2068712 - 11/05/10 09:16 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
Whizbanger Offline


Registered: 08/08/10
Posts: 68
Loc: Texas
Anybody get their hands on a pf63 yet or an equal version ? My 07 5.3 takes the pf48 and I'm intrested in the pf 63.

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#2069571 - 11/06/10 09:41 PM Re: New model PF63, any info? [Re: ABomb369]
Whizbanger Offline


Registered: 08/08/10
Posts: 68
Loc: Texas
I've been doing my own research on the pf 63 and have found several clones from Fram, Wix, and Purolator. Seems each has different specs for the bypass pressure. How can that be?

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