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#1882634 - 05/06/10 03:30 PM UOA with Lubro-moly
sdan27 Offline


Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 472
Loc: Michigan
This is on a Case 821 front end loader with a Cummins 8.3L engine. It has about a 20 quart oil capacity so I used three cans of MoS2. We used to use Texaco Ursa that had a descent amount of Moly. We switched to an oil that didn't have any and the iron count went from single digits to 20 which is about the same now. That might be coming from the high fuel content which about doubled since the last oil change. Even though the unit does see a lot of idling, the last time the fuel was this high it was due to a leaky fuel pump. I'm going to replace the fuel lift pump in hopes to bring the fuel level back down. The unit has 9740 total hours with 322 hours on this oil change.

Iron 22
Chrome 1
Al 1
Cu 1
Pb 1
Sil 3
Sod 5
Pot 1
Moly 163
Bor 9
Mag 978
Ca 1328
Ph 947
Zn 1155

Fuel 4.6%
Soot .2%
Vis Cs 12.6
TBN 4.7
Ox 16
Nit 23
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#1882684 - 05/06/10 04:28 PM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: sdan27]
zddp77 Offline


Registered: 02/23/10
Posts: 155
Loc: n.j.
Use Chevron Delo 400 or Ursa LE and you dont need Lubro-Moly. BTW not much Moly in Lubro-Moly.

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#1882741 - 05/06/10 05:18 PM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: zddp77]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
I think the Lubro Moly he used as actually the MoS2 additive, which is all moly.

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#1883243 - 05/07/10 06:18 AM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: Johnny]
dnewton3 Offline



Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 5559
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
I'd keep an eye on the fuel if it's "double" the last UOA. Clearly, you already have a plan of attack; that's good.

Rest looks really good.


Edited by dnewton3 (05/07/10 09:14 AM)
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#1883310 - 05/07/10 07:53 AM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: dnewton3]
Jim Allen Offline


Registered: 08/12/05
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Loc: NW Ohio
Regardless of the higher-trending iron (which is really not all that high taken on it's own), and the high fuel (not related to the oil), this is a great report for a 9700 hour engine.
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#1914315 - 06/05/10 07:58 PM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: sdan27]
Tornado Red Offline


Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 1735
Loc: Saint Paul (ex-San Diego)
167 ppm of moly is a good amount, not too much and not too little.
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#1915915 - 06/07/10 02:16 PM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: zddp77]
daman Offline


Registered: 09/23/06
Posts: 10454
Loc: Bad Axe, MI
Originally Posted By: zddp77
BTW not much Moly in Lubro-Moly.

The thing holds 20 qts man.
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#1916395 - 06/08/10 01:20 AM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: daman]
chevrofreak Offline


Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 4899
Loc: Billings, MT
I think the MoS2 particles might not be accurately detected with a typical UOA.
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#1986728 - 08/15/10 02:55 PM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: chevrofreak]
BigRich954 Offline


Registered: 08/13/09
Posts: 102
Loc: nj
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
I think the MoS2 particles might not be accurately detected with a typical UOA.


why?

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#1986766 - 08/15/10 03:37 PM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: chevrofreak]
Tornado Red Offline


Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 1735
Loc: Saint Paul (ex-San Diego)
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
I think the MoS2 particles might not be accurately detected with a typical UOA.


MoS2 absolutely shows up in a used-oil test. It is obvious, especially when used with an oil that does not contain any moly, such as M1 TDT.
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#1988291 - 08/17/10 03:32 AM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: zddp77]
lipadj46 Offline


Registered: 08/07/09
Posts: 1223
Loc: Western NY
Originally Posted By: zddp77
BTW not much Moly in Lubro-Moly.


Yes there is, tons of it, well more like grams of it. Nice to see a UOA with MoS2 in a diesel. Who was it that always claims about MoS2 eating copper in a diesel environment?


Edited by lipadj46 (08/17/10 03:36 AM)
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#1990388 - 08/18/10 10:04 PM Re: UOA with Lubro-moly [Re: lipadj46]
sdan27 Offline


Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 472
Loc: Michigan
We use an engine oil that does not normally contain any moly so it seems to show up pretty well. I've done about a half dozen more with similar results.
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