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#1987474 - 08/16/10 10:18 AM
Why do NASCAR drivers..........
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Registered: 05/12/09
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Loc: Canada
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Sit so close to the steering wheel? Seems like an un-natural driving position.
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#1987484 - 08/16/10 10:26 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: Silber Igel]
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Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Atlanta,GA
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Years ago I read that it was either in case the power steering failed or because it had no power steering.
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#1987489 - 08/16/10 10:32 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: BMWTurboDzl]
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Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 19401
Loc: Colorado Springs
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It so they can "get up on that wheel" or however Darrel Waltrip says that when he's announcing a race. It really is weird looking. They need something more flashy: 
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#1987496 - 08/16/10 10:38 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: BMWTurboDzl]
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 4067
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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Years ago I read that it was either in case the power steering failed or because it had no power steering.
They do get more leverage sitting closer, I think these days though they can't drive the cars without powersteering anyways. The cars are too heavy and the suspension geometry works again the driver too much.
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#1987499 - 08/16/10 10:38 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: expat]
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Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 8286
Loc: PA
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Sit so close to the steering wheel? Seems like an un-natural driving position. It might not be natural for relaxing and cruising, but it definitely is natural for racing. Having the wheel that close puts your arms in a position that gives much better control. EDIT: It's not just NASCAR drivers, by the way. Most race cars put the wheel that close.
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#1987520 - 08/16/10 11:00 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: d00df00d]
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Registered: 05/31/08
Posts: 799
Loc: Montreal, Quebec in Canada
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EDIT: It's not just NASCAR drivers, by the way. Most race cars put the wheel that close. You can definitively see that for rally drivers. By having the fore arms at 90 degrees, it gives you more control on the steering wheel (faster reactions).
Edited by Pesca (08/16/10 11:01 AM)
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#1987531 - 08/16/10 11:10 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: Silber Igel]
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 19531
Loc: ME
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They learned to drive that way in their high chair...... You only need the wheel far away to turn RIGHT...  At speed I don't see the need for PS unless they have a very tight ratio box. As I understand it they steer with power and rear wheel slippage anyway.
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#1987581 - 08/16/10 11:52 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: Drew99GT]
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Registered: 12/21/03
Posts: 12385
Loc: Northern CA
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It so they can "get up on that wheel" or however Darrel Waltrip says that when he's announcing a race. It really is weird looking. They need something more flashy: Which reminds me, Why do lowriders have such small steering wheels"? So they can drive with their handcuffs on.
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#1987615 - 08/16/10 12:36 PM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: XS650]
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Registered: 02/28/10
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Loc: kansas
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to match their dinky little 13" tires
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#1987763 - 08/16/10 03:29 PM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: Pesca]
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Registered: 05/12/09
Posts: 2791
Loc: Canada
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EDIT: It's not just NASCAR drivers, by the way. Most race cars put the wheel that close. You can definitively see that for rally drivers. By having the fore arms at 90 degrees, it gives you more control on the steering wheel (faster reactions). I can't say I have seen that in Rally cars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyWEOEA1NMs&feature=relatedInteresting video by the way :-)
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#1987815 - 08/16/10 04:34 PM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: expat]
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Registered: 03/14/06
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Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
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EDIT: It's not just NASCAR drivers, by the way. Most race cars put the wheel that close. You can definitively see that for rally drivers. By having the fore arms at 90 degrees, it gives you more control on the steering wheel (faster reactions). I can't say I have seen that in Rally cars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyWEOEA1NMs&feature=relatedSome do sit closer than that (that must be an OLD vid, as all of the modern stuff, save for the U.S., and vintage Brit kit, use paddle shifted sequential gearboxes). The BTCC/WTCC/DTM drivers tend to sit fairly close to the wheel as well.
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#1987817 - 08/16/10 04:39 PM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: eljefino]
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Registered: 03/14/06
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Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
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As I understand it they steer with power and rear wheel slippage anyway. The Aussie V-8 Supercar Series definitely steers that way with their spooled rear axles!! 
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#1988539 - 08/17/10 10:48 AM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: expat]
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Registered: 05/31/08
Posts: 799
Loc: Montreal, Quebec in Canada
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EDIT: It's not just NASCAR drivers, by the way. Most race cars put the wheel that close. You can definitively see that for rally drivers. By having the fore arms at 90 degrees, it gives you more control on the steering wheel (faster reactions). I can't say I have seen that in Rally cars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyWEOEA1NMs&feature=relatedInteresting video by the way :-) I should have precised my references: I was talking about Sebastien Loeb in WRC. From what I remember, like dailydriver said, all modern rally drivers drive this way. But like dOOfOOd said, this is not the most relaxing position. I tend to sit closer than regular people (my wife is 3-4 inches smaller than me and I usually sit closer to the steering wheel than her), as I feel more in control, in case of an emergency situation occurs. It is not that comfortable (needs to have the seat quite up right as I have long legs), but I can drive a long time like that. It may be not a good thing in case of a front impact (too close to the wheel), but for now and as long as I can endure the slight back pain I get from the position, I prefer to drive that way. I feel way more in control that having the arms extended all the time.
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#1989301 - 08/17/10 11:13 PM
Re: Why do NASCAR drivers..........
[Re: Pesca]
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Registered: 05/12/09
Posts: 2791
Loc: Canada
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F1 driver seem to prefer the opposite, Arms almost fully extended!
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