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#1934760 - 06/26/10 02:23 PM Rearview mirror won't stay up
HawkeyeScott Offline


Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 556
Loc: El Oeste
Getting pretty frustrated after re-mounting my mirrow four times in the past year or so. (The mirror comes off right after you adjust it. Happened again today.) Problem seems to be that I'm getting poor glue coverage on the little button that adheres to the windshield. When I looked at it today, glue had only covered about 60% of the button outline. 40% was bare as could be.

When I mounted it last time, I pushed HARD on the thing for a good 2 minutes. Then I let it sit overnight for two nights to cure. Even used the high-end Permatex glue. Did the initial mount at 75 degrees outside, which is right at the top end of the temperature range listed on the package.

I'm wondering if I'm pushing TOO hard on it when I'm mounting it and the glue is spreading out too much. Or, it seems like the window may have a slight curve in it there so as not to allow even coverage. Those are the only things I can think of. This last time, it wasn't up for more than a 4 weeks.

I'd be willing to go the dealership to have it done, but I'm not convicned anyone can make this sucker stay put!

Anyone else had this problem?

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#1934778 - 06/26/10 02:44 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: HawkeyeScott]
XS650 Offline



Registered: 12/21/03
Posts: 12385
Loc: Northern CA
I've had problems gluing the mirror mount buttons on. They used to fall off after a month to a year.

I think the biggest factor is surface preparation. All old glue needs to be removed from the windshield and the metal mount. I finally scraped both surfaces with a razor blade after they looked completely clean. Then I vigorously wiped both surfaces with acetone and a clean cloth.

I gently pressed the button in place for a couple of minutes, then left it overnight with some blue masknig tape securing it (probably a waste of tape).

When I did all things...clean surfaces until the looked clean, a post clean razor scrape, acetone wipe and overnight tape, the buttons stayed on.

I'm sure that's overkill, but it worked for me and I was tired of re-gluing the things.

I think the absolutely clean surface, including no old glue is what does the trick.
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#1934780 - 06/26/10 02:44 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: HawkeyeScott]
LT4 Vette Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 12493
Loc: USA
Get some sand paper and gently scuff the smooth side of the the mount (button).

I had the some problem with my wife's 1994 Altima until I realized that the glue will NOT hold as long as it is sandwiched between the smooth glass and the smooth mirror mount.



Edited by LT4 Vette (06/26/10 02:54 PM)

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#1934787 - 06/26/10 02:49 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: LT4 Vette]
barlowc Offline


Registered: 03/16/09
Posts: 2043
Loc: Southeast Michigan
Some auto-glass places will reinstall the button for free or for a minimal charge. Might be worth a couple calls and a visit to end your frustration.
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#1934831 - 06/26/10 03:36 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: barlowc]
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 6454
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: barlowc
Some auto-glass places will reinstall the button for free or for a minimal charge. Might be worth a couple calls and a visit to end your frustration.


Exactly... They've got the materials and the skill to get it right the first time.

I'd bet that you'll find a place that'll do it for five or ten bucks, if you take it to their shop.
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#1934843 - 06/26/10 03:54 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: XS650]
oilcoholic Offline


Registered: 10/15/09
Posts: 182
Loc: Upstate South Carolina
Originally Posted By: XS650
I've had problems gluing the mirror mount buttons on. They used to fall off after a month to a year.

I think the biggest factor is surface preparation. All old glue needs to be removed from the windshield and the metal mount. I finally scraped both surfaces with a razor blade after they looked completely clean. Then I vigorously wiped both surfaces with acetone and a clean cloth.

I gently pressed the button in place for a couple of minutes, then left it overnight with some blue masknig tape securing it (probably a waste of tape).

When I did all things...clean surfaces until the looked clean, a post clean razor scrape, acetone wipe and overnight tape, the buttons stayed on.

I'm sure that's overkill, but it worked for me and I was tired of re-gluing the things.

I think the absolutely clean surface, including no old glue is what does the trick.


This is pretty much the same procedure I used on my mother's Buick. Mirror has been on for 2 yrs. now in hot South Carolina summers. It's all in the prep.

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#1934860 - 06/26/10 04:22 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: oilcoholic]
CourierDriver Offline


Registered: 12/27/09
Posts: 3118
Loc: Tennessee
I just use the sidemirrors with the added convex stick ons for extra protection, big trucks dont have review mirrors and they do just fine, well its a thought.
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#1934883 - 06/26/10 04:54 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: CourierDriver]
FusilliJerry82 Offline


Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 779
Loc: Richboro, PA
Dollar store super glue works well.
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#1934939 - 06/26/10 05:59 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: FusilliJerry82]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 11453
Loc: apple valley, ca
I had the same problem with my Scout. The kit at the auto parts store was junk. I ended up cleaning the glass real well then scuffing it with 40 grit sandpaper. Cleaned the button and scuffed it too.

I then used JBweld to glue the button onto the glass LOL
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#1934952 - 06/26/10 06:15 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: Chris142]
Gary Allan Offline


Registered: 09/28/02
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I manage a refit every year or two. My biggest complaint is having to drag an Allen wrench out to the jeep since the wife must readjust it too often. It always loosens up and I keep forgetting to bring locktite. At that point it goes on the back burner for next time.
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#1934982 - 06/26/10 07:09 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: Gary Allan]
HawkeyeScott Offline


Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 556
Loc: El Oeste
Excellent suggestions. Thanks a lot. I may just ask the pros to do it.

I almost did the scuffing of the button last time but chose not to. Also thought of a super glue and obviously picked against it.

Again, thanks a lot.

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#1935670 - 06/27/10 02:35 PM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: HawkeyeScott]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Super glue is not reliable for mirrors.
Trust me, failure is going to come.
Use the right stuff.
Proper substrate cleaning is essential.

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#1936142 - 06/28/10 04:42 AM Re: Rearview mirror won't stay up [Re: mechtech2]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 7289
Loc: Rochester NY
The best results that I have had in the past is to take the vehicle into a professional. I've tried it myself with the autoparts store products and they didn't work. There are a couple of Auto Glass Repair Shops in my area and they have the proper glass cleaner and glues to do the job right.
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