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#1903240 - 05/26/10 10:47 AM Best Additive to reduce oil consumption?
Honda2003 Offline


Registered: 05/02/09
Posts: 163
Loc: Arkansas
I have a 2001 GMC extended cab Z71 with the 5.3 Vortec. I bought it new and have ran Valvoline 10w-30 till 75,000 miles then switched to Valvoline Max Life 10w-30. It holds 6qts and I replace 1qt with Lucas Oil Stabilizer every oil change. I got 175,000 mile on it now and its using a little oil now around 1 or more quart's between oil changes. I run it with and without the stabilizer and no difference in the oil consumption. Is there a better additive to help that I should try? Should I change oil brand? Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
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#1903247 - 05/26/10 10:55 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Honda2003]
Billbert Offline


Registered: 10/09/09
Posts: 273
Loc: California
First off, ditch the Oil Stabilizer. The only thing it is stabilizing is Lucas' income.
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#1903248 - 05/26/10 10:55 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Honda2003]
SubyRoo Offline


Registered: 06/08/09
Posts: 204
Loc: Maryville, TN
I for one would'nt ruin a good oil with Lucas unless its noisy and you want to sell it fast. Especially since the extra thickness obviously isnt helping consumption.
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#1903250 - 05/26/10 10:57 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Honda2003]
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Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 10053
Loc: PA
First, check your PCV system. Replace anything that looks at you funny.

Then, run the MaxLife straight with no additive for at least 2-3 oil changes and see if the consumption settles out.

As far as I can tell, Lucas Oil Stabilizer is pretty much bunk; the only thing it's good for is making a busted engine appear trouble-free just long enough for you to sell it. If it makes no difference to you, that's all the more reason to stop using it whatever happens.
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#1903255 - 05/26/10 11:00 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Honda2003]
Honda2003 Offline


Registered: 05/02/09
Posts: 163
Loc: Arkansas
It wont hurt my feelings any to ditch the Stabilizer it will cut over $10 off my oil changes. I initially started running the Lucas because when my truck hit 20,000 miles it has this horrible knock on start up worse when cold. I been told this is normal with this truck but drives me crazy. The Lucas seem to help some but not much. Thanks
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#1903261 - 05/26/10 11:04 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: d00df00d]
Honda2003 Offline


Registered: 05/02/09
Posts: 163
Loc: Arkansas
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
First, check your PCV system. Replace anything that looks at you funny.

Then, run the MaxLife straight with no additive for at least 2-3 oil changes and see if the consumption settles out.

As far as I can tell, Lucas Oil Stabilizer is pretty much bunk; the only thing it's good for is making a busted engine appear trouble-free just long enough for you to sell it. If it makes no difference to you, that's all the more reason to stop using it whatever happens.


I've cleaned the PCV Valve its the one without the shaker its just straight through. Its been all nasty before but its all good now and has been for a while.
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#1903264 - 05/26/10 11:05 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Honda2003]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
If you have been using the Lucas Stabilizer since 20,000 miles you probably have some stuck piston rings causing the oil consumption. You might need to do some gentle cleaning to help free up the rings.

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#1903267 - 05/26/10 11:07 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Johnny]
d00df00d Offline


Registered: 10/20/05
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
If you have been using the Lucas Stabilizer since 20,000 miles you probably have some stuck piston rings causing the oil consumption. You might need to do some gentle cleaning to help free up the rings.

Good point. Time for some AutoRX maybe? smile2
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#1903274 - 05/26/10 11:13 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Johnny]
Honda2003 Offline


Registered: 05/02/09
Posts: 163
Loc: Arkansas
Originally Posted By: Johnny
If you have been using the Lucas Stabilizer since 20,000 miles you probably have some stuck piston rings causing the oil consumption. You might need to do some gentle cleaning to help free up the rings.


I first started using the Valvoline oil additive in the little red bottle then switched to the Lucas because they discontinued the Valvoline. How do I need to clean? I just changed my oil yesterday. Thanks for the info.
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#1903279 - 05/26/10 11:16 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: d00df00d]
CourierDriver Offline


Registered: 12/27/09
Posts: 3916
Loc: USA
use an HDEO 5w40 t6 rotella or 15w40rotella triple protection and see if u oil usuage stops, it did for me, and go 8000 miles now on T6 synthetic shell rotella, before adding oil.
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#1903284 - 05/26/10 11:19 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: d00df00d]
scurvy Offline


Registered: 02/19/07
Posts: 2333
Loc: Chicago IL USA
Best 'additive' for an oil-burning engine would be whatever 15w40 HDEO is on sale. You can try ARX or MMO or [censored] or BBQ to free stuck rings, but 1 quart/OCI isn't terrible. The high detergent HDEO may help free rings as well. Shouldn't have any issues in the summer with it, especially in hot & humid Arkansas.

My Golf & NB typically use 0.75 - 1 liter per OCI... but they often go 20k km [12k miles] or more between oil changes.
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#1903298 - 05/26/10 11:29 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: CourierDriver]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 13064
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Why don't you try a dino 10w-30 along with a qt of MMO for 1 OCI to get those rings unstuck.If things get better then go to PZ Ultra 5-w30 to keep it that way.75K isn't high mileage,you probably stuck the rings up with that stuff.
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#1903302 - 05/26/10 11:32 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Trav]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
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Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
Trav, he has 175,000 on the truck now.

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#1903303 - 05/26/10 11:33 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Johnny]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 13482
Loc: apple valley, ca
Originally Posted By: Johnny
If you have been using the Lucas Stabilizer since 20,000 miles you probably have some stuck piston rings causing the oil consumption. You might need to do some gentle cleaning to help free up the rings.
x2.
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#1903309 - 05/26/10 11:37 AM Re: Best Additive to reduce oil consumption? [Re: Johnny]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 13064
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Trav, he has 175,000 on the truck now.


Oh boy getting old is bad for the eyes,thanks for pointing that out Johnny.
Still i think MMO my be of some benefit in a HMO for getting some junk out of the rings.
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