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#1882111 - 05/06/10 12:08 AM Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
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Low coolant light came on on the Saturn, so I checked and found coolant on the subframe near the RF passenger tire. It has got to be the water pump as every other part of the cooling system (heater core, radiator, thermostat, cap, hoses, etc) are all new.

The two choices are NAPA for $40 or AutoZone for $37. Autozone's pump has a nationwide warranty, which is one advantage over NAPA.

Any experience with either?

Thanks!
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#1882119 - 05/06/10 12:20 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: The Critic]
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I don't think you'll keep this car long enough to tell a difference between the two.

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#1882122 - 05/06/10 12:26 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: L_Sludger]
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http://www.napabeltshose.com/index.cfm?location_id=1001

Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I don't think you'll keep this car long enough to tell a difference between the two.


True.
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#1882123 - 05/06/10 12:28 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: The Critic]
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Registered: 09/14/09
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I had a Duralast pump die in just over a year of use on my '89 Olds.

Sure, AZ replaced it with a free one, but while on a long trip, the wobbly pump shaft caused my serpentine belt to shred. A piece of the belt, running at highway speed, took out my crank sensor (tow-truck time).

The replacement has been running since the fall of 2007, but I'd probably go with NAPA, after that bad experience.


Edited by OilNerd (05/06/10 12:30 AM)
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#1882126 - 05/06/10 12:48 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: OilNerd]
FusilliJerry82 Offline


Registered: 06/03/06
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Loc: Richboro, PA
NAPA for sure, especially for the small difference in price.

You could even get a Gates pump off Rock Auto for about $35 including shipping and its probably better than both the others.
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#1882127 - 05/06/10 12:53 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: FusilliJerry82]
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NAPA, especially with such a small price difference.
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#1882136 - 05/06/10 01:07 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: defektes]
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Originally Posted By: defektes
NAPA, especially with such a small price difference.

Gates is the supplier of water pumps to NAPA.

Of course, this does not guarantee that the quality of water pumps sold by Gates under their brand is the same quality as the pumps sold under the NAPA label.
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#1882137 - 05/06/10 01:08 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: The Critic]
defektes Offline


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I have used nothing but NAPA remans with the lifetime warranty, great results, the one on my jeep is over 4 or 5 years old and many miles. If you go with the NAPA make sure to keep your receipt, that is your warranty.
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#1882138 - 05/06/10 01:10 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: defektes]
The Critic Offline


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Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
Originally Posted By: defektes
If you go with the NAPA make sure to keep your receipt, that is your warranty.

Really? That's lame.

With AutoZone, you do not even need the receipt. All of the information is tracked via your phone number through the computer.
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#1882152 - 05/06/10 02:26 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: The Critic]
FusilliJerry82 Offline


Registered: 06/03/06
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Ya but their parts aren't as good so there's a trade-off.
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#1882196 - 05/06/10 06:16 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: FusilliJerry82]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
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I'd go oe or own supplier if I knew who it was, but that's just me...

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#1882216 - 05/06/10 07:14 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: FusilliJerry82]
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Interesting dilemma. The NAPA name no longer guarantees that it is of general better quality now a days. They, too, are getting in more import parts to remain competitive.

I imagine both the AZ and NAPA pumps are imported? I wonder how they compare to a remanufactured OEM?

There's no clear cut better choice and you have buy one and "role with the punches".

My bias is to go with NAPA only because of their (and Gates) better reputation. BUT, the idea of having to retain a paper receipt is so old fashioned!
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#1882242 - 05/06/10 08:01 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: doitmyself]
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Registered: 12/08/06
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Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: doitmyself


My bias is to go with NAPA only because of their (and Gates) better reputation. BUT, the idea of having to retain a paper receipt is so old fashioned!


Just slip it in between two pages of the owner's manual.
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#1882270 - 05/06/10 08:44 AM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: L_Sludger]
css9450 Offline


Registered: 01/03/04
Posts: 1724
Loc: Glen Ellyn, IL
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I don't think you'll keep this car long enough to tell a difference between the two.


Some people might, however.

I've kept cars long enough that have required multiple water pump replacements, every 100 to 150K miles.

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#1883027 - 05/06/10 10:01 PM Re: Duralast vs. NAPA Water Pumps [Re: css9450]
Rhymingmechanic Offline


Registered: 08/13/04
Posts: 957
Loc: VA
I shopped around for Saturn water pumps about 3 years ago. NAPA's, Advance's and Autozone's all looked exactly the same--I was looking at impellers, but I think the markings were even the same. I went with Advance, because they had the best deal. Good thing it had a lifetime warranty, because it was leaking again after 20,000 miles. Advance's replacement this time is cast aluminum with a flat flange and paper gasket, compared to the earlier stamped steel with an o-ring type gasket. Considering my experience so far, I would probably buy based on warranty.

If you've never changed one of these before, a long 10mm wrench and a 3/8" flex handle with short 10mm socket will be helpful. There's not enough clearance for a ratchet on some bolts, and the flex handle setup is just a bit thinner. The long wrench will help tighten the pulley bolts.

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