Recent Topics
VR1 Only suitable for 3 month / 3000mi oci's?
by FordCapriDriver
04/29/16 04:07 AM
4-year old oil in a sealed container
by rickeroo
04/29/16 12:05 AM
Cowboys fans should be happy tonight.
by deven
04/28/16 11:03 PM
2012 Civic - MaxLife ATF update
by sw99
04/28/16 10:58 PM
Champ PH820 on closeout at Rockauto
by sw99
04/28/16 10:52 PM
Is two years too long?
by kohnen
04/28/16 10:34 PM
Keep getting TR.APK popup on S III cell phone...
by daves66nova
04/28/16 10:16 PM
Curse You Road Salt Version 2
by Oldtom
04/28/16 07:34 PM
Anyone have advice for moving a cat cross-country?
by earlyre
04/28/16 07:23 PM
MLB baseball games are very expensive
by Joe1
04/28/16 07:20 PM
Additive technology used in Euro mid-saps oils
by skyactiv
04/28/16 05:41 PM
Would I be crazy if I did this:
by Doog
04/28/16 05:36 PM
Newest Members
carver1, Handy7rick, sicilien, Crater_77, hiker17
57737 Registered Users
Who's Online
29 registered (Astro14, AirgunSavant, 1foxracing, Bandito440, alcyon, 4 invisible), 608 Guests and 308 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
57737 Members
66 Forums
248196 Topics
4058168 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
#1721394 - 12/27/09 03:03 PM aluminum bore briggs-expected life
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I noticed the snow series max engines have cast iron cylinder sleeves while the regular snow series have aluminum sleeves. Also most of the industrial have C.I. sleeves. What is the expected life of a well maintained aluminum sleeved engine on a snowblower compared to a iron sleeved version? Why did they switch? Last I was aware all b&s engines were C.I sleeved. Why switch? Let me guess....cheeper to produce??

Top
#1721402 - 12/27/09 03:13 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
Warstud Offline


Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 3910
Loc: MIchigan
You say you noticed! How did you notice? Is this an aluminum sleeve in a aluminum block?

Top
#1721420 - 12/27/09 03:42 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: Warstud]
Bluestream Offline


Registered: 09/13/03
Posts: 5223
Loc: Waterloo, ON
my experience with aluminium block small engines is that they do not last long.
_________________________
2000 Cavalier 2.2 A4
2000 VW Beetle 1.8T M5
2000 Ford Explorer 4.0 4X4
1991 BMW 735iL
"A fool and his money are soon parted" - Thomas Tusser

Top
#1721423 - 12/27/09 03:44 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I noticed by reading.

Top
#1721427 - 12/27/09 03:49 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
bepperb Offline


Registered: 01/10/08
Posts: 4945
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Interesting, but keep in mind how few hours the average snowblower gets used a year. Probably less than 20. Like most Briggs engines, I'm sure the vast majority will die of neglect, not from loss of compression due to premature wear of the cylinder.
_________________________
2004 Highlander 2.4
2011 Toyota Sienna 3.5
Recently Gone:
2006 Accord 2.4l K24A8
1993 Kawi EX 500

Top
#1721437 - 12/27/09 03:59 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: bepperb]
Bror Jace Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 5054
Loc: Saratoga, NY
I agree bepperb. I used to maintain Dad's OPE when I lived with him. None of the OPE engines I (over) maintained for a dozen or so years showed any sign of wearing out (smoking, oil consumption, loss of power, etc...) while I ran or maintained any of them.

He's on his own now and doesn't maintain them as well as I did, but I'm still waiting for the phone call where he tells me one of the engines blew up or otherwise died. I suspect that call will never come.
_________________________
--- Bror Jace
2015 Mazda 3 iSport
2005 Honda S2000

Top
#1721457 - 12/27/09 04:18 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I agree that the average snowbloweris not used all that much however the 32" ariens pro series uses the 342cc snowmax aluminum sleeve engine. Being the "professional" equpiment it is labeled as most equipment would be used for say 6 to 8 hours per storm and about 80 or more hours per year. As in a snow removal business. I would expect it to last through at least 10 years of service. Is that unreasonable? If Briggs offers the better "max" engine it seems to me that should be the one offered on the ariens pro snowblowers. Unless the benefits of the aluminum sleeve outweigh the shorter life....

Top
#1721482 - 12/27/09 04:42 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 8520
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Per Brigg's specs, this engine has a cast iron sleeve. I'm not sure there's any OHV engine w/out a CI sleeve these days. Toggle to the "specifications" tab here: http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engine_power/engine_details.aspx?pid=55

Joel
_________________________
2016 Subaru Forester 2.5, CVT. 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan SE (Babe magnet III)

Top
#1721502 - 12/27/09 05:07 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
Yes it has a cast iron sleeve however it is the snowmax series.
It lists the engine block as aluminum with a cast iron sleeve.
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engine_power/engine_details.aspx?pid=55
I have the regular snow series engine on my pro 32 which lists the cylinder block as aluminum. http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engine_power/engine_details.aspx?pid=63
From what I understand it is an aluminum sleeve. Correct?

Top
#1721507 - 12/27/09 05:14 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: JTK]
Warstud Offline


Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 3910
Loc: MIchigan
It looks as if the Max engine blocks are aluminum with a C.I. sleeve. Whereas the regular snow series are all aluminum without a sleeve...(Not time tested long enough for me).

Top
#1721509 - 12/27/09 05:15 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
Uregina09 Offline


Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 88
Loc: Canada
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Briggs & Stratton Snow Series Engines do not have a cast iron cylinder sleeve. You have to get the Snow Series Max series in order to get a cast iron cylinder sleeve. I just purchased a Ariens Deluxe 24 and had the choice of a Briggs Snow Series engine or a Subaru. No brainer - the Subaru has a cast iron sleeve. It's disgraceful how much some stuff has been cheapened....
_________________________
2016 Toyota Rav4 - Mobil 1 AFE 0W20 and Toyota 04152-YZZA1
2011 Ford F150 - Mobil 1 AFE 0W30 and Motorcraft FL500S

Top
#1721515 - 12/27/09 05:27 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I bought it about 10 days ago. I assused (bad idea) that because it was a B&S it was top quality expecially since it was the pro model ariens. I never would have imagned it used amuninum. Not that I have any problems with it but.....an aluminum sleeve?!?! How long have these engines been out? i wont be happy if I have to repower in 5 years.....I feel sick.

Top
#1721520 - 12/27/09 05:34 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: Warstud]
SrDriver Offline


Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 2722
Loc: Southeast Alabama
When the engine needs replacement try one of the cast iron engines from China.

Top
#1721521 - 12/27/09 05:36 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
Warstud Offline


Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 3910
Loc: MIchigan
I don't think it has a sleeve..it's just an aluminum bore. The reason they use a aluminum block is because it's lighter... and the reason they use a C.I. sleeve is because aluminum is soft and is not wear resistant.

Top
#1721538 - 12/27/09 05:59 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: Warstud]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10983
Loc: Albany, NY
There is absolutely nothing wrong with an aluminum bore engine. Lawnmower engines are aluminum bore and go for thousands of hours, you have nothing to worry about.
_________________________
2013 Ford Focus SE 2.0L/70,000miles/Motorcraft Blend 5W-20/FL-910S

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >