Recent Topics
window tinting: outside or inside
by friendly_jacek
10/24/14 10:11 AM
NYC police officer injured after hatchet attack.
by dave1251
10/24/14 10:11 AM
Triumph Herald
by Stelth
10/24/14 09:43 AM
I have a Royal Purple filter on since 1/29/2013
by cutter
10/24/14 09:37 AM
Conoco Philips 5W30 synthetic blend in Honda Gen
by lexus114
10/24/14 09:32 AM
Home AC condenser fins
by ARB1977
10/24/14 08:27 AM
Havoline OAT Coolant substitute?
by dan87951
10/24/14 08:00 AM
Pennzoil Spring FRN changed! Codes invalid
by Scott_mi
10/24/14 07:59 AM
Wix 57202 filter: 9k miles over 3 years
by dnewton3
10/24/14 07:19 AM
New computer build
by Colt45ws
10/24/14 07:18 AM
Stabil 360
by RamFan
10/24/14 06:34 AM
Baldwin B2-HPG Filter
by 340_Magnum
10/24/14 12:54 AM
Newest Members
Dumy, SethTanner, mrfitz, 69P, newbull87
51678 Registered Users
Who's Online
92 registered (95MarkVIII, 1 FMF, 72te27, 901Memphis, 69P, 147_Grain, 9 invisible), 1710 Guests and 191 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51678 Members
64 Forums
221144 Topics
3496130 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
#1721394 - 12/27/09 03:03 PM aluminum bore briggs-expected life
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I noticed the snow series max engines have cast iron cylinder sleeves while the regular snow series have aluminum sleeves. Also most of the industrial have C.I. sleeves. What is the expected life of a well maintained aluminum sleeved engine on a snowblower compared to a iron sleeved version? Why did they switch? Last I was aware all b&s engines were C.I sleeved. Why switch? Let me guess....cheeper to produce??

Top
#1721402 - 12/27/09 03:13 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
Warstud Offline


Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 2862
Loc: MIchigan
You say you noticed! How did you notice? Is this an aluminum sleeve in a aluminum block?

Top
#1721420 - 12/27/09 03:42 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: Warstud]
Bluestream Offline


Registered: 09/13/03
Posts: 3952
Loc: Waterloo, ON
my experience with aluminium block small engines is that they do not last long.
_________________________
2000 Cavalier 2.2 A4
2000 VW Beetle 1.8T M5
2000 Ford Explorer 4.0 4X4
1991 BMW 735iL
"A fool and his money are soon parted" - Thomas Tusser

Top
#1721423 - 12/27/09 03:44 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I noticed by reading.

Top
#1721427 - 12/27/09 03:49 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
bepperb Offline


Registered: 01/10/08
Posts: 4764
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Interesting, but keep in mind how few hours the average snowblower gets used a year. Probably less than 20. Like most Briggs engines, I'm sure the vast majority will die of neglect, not from loss of compression due to premature wear of the cylinder.
_________________________
2004 Highlander 2.4
2011 Toyota Sienna 3.5
Recently Gone:
2006 Accord 2.4l K24A8
1993 Kawi EX 500

Top
#1721437 - 12/27/09 03:59 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: bepperb]
Bror Jace Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 4878
Loc: Saratoga, NY
I agree bepperb. I used to maintain Dad's OPE when I lived with him. None of the OPE engines I (over) maintained for a dozen or so years showed any sign of wearing out (smoking, oil consumption, loss of power, etc...) while I ran or maintained any of them.

He's on his own now and doesn't maintain them as well as I did, but I'm still waiting for the phone call where he tells me one of the engines blew up or otherwise died. I suspect that call will never come.
_________________________
--- Bror Jace
2006 Honda Civic
2005 Honda S2000

Top
#1721457 - 12/27/09 04:18 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I agree that the average snowbloweris not used all that much however the 32" ariens pro series uses the 342cc snowmax aluminum sleeve engine. Being the "professional" equpiment it is labeled as most equipment would be used for say 6 to 8 hours per storm and about 80 or more hours per year. As in a snow removal business. I would expect it to last through at least 10 years of service. Is that unreasonable? If Briggs offers the better "max" engine it seems to me that should be the one offered on the ariens pro snowblowers. Unless the benefits of the aluminum sleeve outweigh the shorter life....

Top
#1721482 - 12/27/09 04:42 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 7308
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Per Brigg's specs, this engine has a cast iron sleeve. I'm not sure there's any OHV engine w/out a CI sleeve these days. Toggle to the "specifications" tab here: http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engine_power/engine_details.aspx?pid=55

Joel
_________________________
2014 Subaru XV Crosstek 2.0L, 5spd, 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan SE (Babe magnet III)

Top
#1721502 - 12/27/09 05:07 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
Yes it has a cast iron sleeve however it is the snowmax series.
It lists the engine block as aluminum with a cast iron sleeve.
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engine_power/engine_details.aspx?pid=55
I have the regular snow series engine on my pro 32 which lists the cylinder block as aluminum. http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engine_power/engine_details.aspx?pid=63
From what I understand it is an aluminum sleeve. Correct?

Top
#1721507 - 12/27/09 05:14 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: JTK]
Warstud Offline


Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 2862
Loc: MIchigan
It looks as if the Max engine blocks are aluminum with a C.I. sleeve. Whereas the regular snow series are all aluminum without a sleeve...(Not time tested long enough for me).

Top
#1721509 - 12/27/09 05:15 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
Uregina09 Offline


Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 40
Loc: Canada
Long time lurker, first time poster.

Briggs & Stratton Snow Series Engines do not have a cast iron cylinder sleeve. You have to get the Snow Series Max series in order to get a cast iron cylinder sleeve. I just purchased a Ariens Deluxe 24 and had the choice of a Briggs Snow Series engine or a Subaru. No brainer - the Subaru has a cast iron sleeve. It's disgraceful how much some stuff has been cheapened....

Top
#1721515 - 12/27/09 05:27 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
morrison250r Offline


Registered: 12/24/09
Posts: 43
Loc: Millinocket, ME
I bought it about 10 days ago. I assused (bad idea) that because it was a B&S it was top quality expecially since it was the pro model ariens. I never would have imagned it used amuninum. Not that I have any problems with it but.....an aluminum sleeve?!?! How long have these engines been out? i wont be happy if I have to repower in 5 years.....I feel sick.

Top
#1721520 - 12/27/09 05:34 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: Warstud]
SrDriver Offline


Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 2474
Loc: Southeast Alabama
When the engine needs replacement try one of the cast iron engines from China.

Top
#1721521 - 12/27/09 05:36 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: morrison250r]
Warstud Offline


Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 2862
Loc: MIchigan
I don't think it has a sleeve..it's just an aluminum bore. The reason they use a aluminum block is because it's lighter... and the reason they use a C.I. sleeve is because aluminum is soft and is not wear resistant.

Top
#1721538 - 12/27/09 05:59 PM Re: aluminum bore briggs-expected life [Re: Warstud]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10579
Loc: NEO
There is absolutely nothing wrong with an aluminum bore engine. Lawnmower engines are aluminum bore and go for thousands of hours, you have nothing to worry about.
_________________________
13 Ford Focus SE 2.0L/36,000miles/Pennz Plat PurePlus 0W-20/FRAM Ultra

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >