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#1624133 - 10/07/09 09:43 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: addyguy]
JohnBrowning Offline


Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 9448
Loc: USA
Diesel Toyota Hi Lux pick-ups used a filter like the Stratpore that had a built in bypass section at the one end. It was to keep soot and such down to extend engine life.

Does Fleet Guard make one of those filters with treads and such the size of a Fram PH8A if so a a filter relocation kit would easily allow a lot of people on here to take advatage of bypass filtration in a dispossable format. My Trasko requires me to buy their elements which are not expensive $10 per element and each element comes with new orings seals and new base plate seal etc...... They recomend the first time you use it to keep it to six months because of all the carbon it will trap that is in the engine after the first time though it is good for once a year changes!

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#1624251 - 10/07/09 11:59 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: JohnBrowning]
Gary Allan Offline


Registered: 09/28/02
Posts: 39806
Loc: Pottstown, PA
I went through all the Venturi combo numbers that would xref to Wix (many do). There are like 5 in the 95mm thread.

About the only thing sensible in our terms is the light duty Cummins thread 1-16 ..which is designated for a Kubota. It has no bypass valve.

Here's what it looks like in Wix for size reference.

Part Number: 57620XE
UPC Number: 765809526204
Principal Application: Extra Efficiency Version Of 57620 - Has Fluted Can (can use in place of 51607)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper/Glass
Height: 7.000
Outer Diameter Top: 3.690
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Beta Ratio: 2/20=14/25
Burst Pressure-PSI: 378
Max Flow Rate: 12-15 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 14

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.830 2.440 0.225

http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/pdfs/product_lit/americas_brochures/LT36043.pdf
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#1626342 - 10/09/09 09:38 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: Gary Allan]
sdan27 Offline


Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 476
Loc: Michigan
I found this document on the Fleetguard website that talks all about oil filtration and bypass filtration and lists all the venturi combo filters way down on page 17. They list the LF9333 as a 1 1/2-12 UNS 2B when it is actually a 2 1/2-12 UNS 2B. Same thread as the LF9325 or the LF9008. I like those pictures of the disected filters. http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/pdfs/product_lit/americas_brochures/LT32599_03.pdf


Edited by sdan27 (10/09/09 09:42 PM)
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#1627247 - 10/10/09 08:28 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: sdan27]
ZZman Offline


Registered: 03/17/08
Posts: 4233
Loc: Michigan
Thanks for the great pics!
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#1743398 - 01/14/10 09:15 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: ZZman]
RiyarBusto Offline


Registered: 01/14/10
Posts: 1
Loc: CT, USA
I have to say that the MICRO GREEN oil filter works really good.

- I had the filter for about 25.000 miles on my 2008 Hyundai Tiburon GS 2.0L 4 cyl., saved around $100 so far. I changed the filter a few weeks ago but I didn't change the oil.
- I took a sample of oil from my car and sent it to a lab to be analyse, I'm waiting for the results.
- What I found out is that the PTFE filter or what SOMS TECHNOLOGIES calls MICRO FILTER filtrates particles down to 2 microns when normal full flow filters filtrates particles down to 14 microns.
- They used PTFE because it is the most stable material for the conditions, such as OIL PRESSURE and OIL TEMPERATURE.
- MICRO GREEN filters are available in different sizes for different cars. From small cars to trucks just go to [dead link] to find the right filter for your car.
- You can also calculate your savings by using the CALCULATOR on the Micro Green website.

Thanks for the pics.


Edited by wwillson (01/15/10 06:56 AM)
Edit Reason: dead link

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#1744903 - 01/16/10 10:56 AM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: RiyarBusto]
slalom44 Offline


Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 787
Loc: Granville, Ohio
Originally Posted By: RiyarBusto
I have to say that the MICRO GREEN oil filter works really good.

- I had the filter for about 25.000 miles on my 2008 Hyundai Tiburon GS 2.0L 4 cyl., saved around $100 so far. I changed the filter a few weeks ago but I didn't change the oil.
- I took a sample of oil from my car and sent it to a lab to be analyse, I'm waiting for the results.
- What I found out is that the PTFE filter or what SOMS TECHNOLOGIES calls MICRO FILTER filtrates particles down to 2 microns when normal full flow filters filtrates particles down to 14 microns.
- They used PTFE because it is the most stable material for the conditions, such as OIL PRESSURE and OIL TEMPERATURE.
- MICRO GREEN filters are available in different sizes for different cars. From small cars to trucks just go to [dead link] to find the right filter for your car.
- You can also calculate your savings by using the CALCULATOR on the Micro Green website.

Thanks for the pics.

Let me be the first to say welcome

However, I have some questions. Your post looks more like an advertisement for the company than personal experience.

You say it "works really good". Based on what? You don't even have a UOA yet.

You did a 25,000 mile OCI with the same oil and filter? What type of oil did you use? Are you getting a TBN on your oil when you get it analyzed? How much make-up oil?

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it sounds a little nuts for a person to just go to 25,000 mile OCIs based on a filter manufacturer's claims without building up to that level after analyzing UOAs. I went less than 12,000 miles with Mobil 1 on my MicroGreen UOA and only had a TBN of 2.4 left when I changed the oil. I never would have risked going to 25,000 miles.


Edited by slalom44 (01/16/10 10:57 AM)

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#1746931 - 01/18/10 11:43 AM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: slalom44]
addyguy Offline


Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 13448
Loc: Canada
Considering someone recently did a 25k mile OCI on a Fram Extra Guard filter, and it held together, it doesn't take much to have a filter survive 25k.
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#3350134 - 04/22/14 01:37 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: slalom44]
FetchFar Offline


Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 831
Loc: Colorado
Just noticed micro green oil filters have silicon ADBV valves now. They were running the cold-stiff butyl rubber. For a filter that costs that much, its nice to see they finall realize people at least want silicon.
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#3386512 - 06/01/14 08:10 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: slalom44]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13662
Loc: Upstate NY
A good test would be to run say 6K with a Mobil 1 filter, get a UOA with particle count and then swap in a microGreen filter, run another 1K or 2K miles and do another UOA with particle count.
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#3386578 - 06/01/14 10:01 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: Donald]
FetchFar Offline


Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 831
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: Donald
A good test would be to run say 6K with a Mobil 1 filter, get a UOA with particle count and then swap in a microGreen filter, run another 1K or 2K miles and do another UOA with particle count.


They did something like that on their website. http://www.microgreenfilter.com/testing-and-validation and see the charts lower on the page, with comments. Granted, those oil filters they used they said were "conventional", and your Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil filter mentioned would be a better premium oil filter, maybe not too different though.
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#3387184 - 06/02/14 05:42 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: slalom44]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13662
Loc: Upstate NY
Their chart shows avg. new oil at 2500. What is that figure from? A car with new oil added and driven a bit? New oil out of the container?
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#3387548 - 06/03/14 02:14 AM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: Donald]
FetchFar Offline


Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 831
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: Donald
Their chart shows avg. new oil at 2500. What is that figure from? A car with new oil added and driven a bit? New oil out of the container?


New oil out of the container, yes. Seems weird, I guess they are saying their is enough ash in there to count in the 5 micron neighborhood, about 2500 particles per milliliter.
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#3387549 - 06/03/14 02:15 AM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: addyguy]
FetchFar Offline


Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 831
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Considering someone recently did a 25k mile OCI on a Fram Extra Guard filter, and it held together, it doesn't take much to have a filter survive 25k.
How did they know it wasn't clogged? Held together, sure, yet need to know if it clogged.
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#3390663 - 06/06/14 12:32 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: slalom44]
UncleDave Offline


Registered: 06/02/14
Posts: 5
Loc: Ca.
Great thread.

Im looking at a microgreen for my cat 3126.

Does anyone know if the larger filters have more bypass media, or do they always include the same tiny amount (little disk) of bypass media?

On a small gas engine I can see that being "ok" but on a large soot/contamination producing diesel I just don't see that working out.

I'm trying to extend the life of the sensitive heui pump.

Thanks!

Uncle Dave
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#3390959 - 06/06/14 06:34 PM Re: MicroGreen Filter Photos [Re: UncleDave]
FetchFar Offline


Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 831
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: UncleDave
Great thread.

Im looking at a microgreen for my cat 3126.

Does anyone know if the larger filters have more bypass media, or do they always include the same tiny amount (little disk) of bypass media?


Technically, the MicroGreen oil filter is not a bypass filter. Its a parallel-flow oil filter, one path filters about normally, and a smaller path, the little disk, flows a smaller percentage of the total flow. (A bypass oil filter takes about 10% of the flow away and dumps it directly back into the oil pan, hence the term "bypass".)

As for your questions, I'd call or email microgreenfilter.com
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