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#1679562 - 11/21/09 02:37 AM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: jonny-b]
jonny-b Offline


Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 1071
Loc: Norway
The reason to why I were testing these additives, c3po, was because at that time, me and my wife were driving a lot and I had the money to try these products.

Since new products are developed, it would not be the smartest thing to stick to one product, and reject all others.

Some times, better products can be brought to the market, and it would be sad if everyone are so stuck with "their product", that they will never try a new one.

It is called development.

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#1679604 - 11/21/09 05:59 AM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: jonny-b]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21291
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: jonny-b
Since new products are developed, it would not be the smartest thing to stick to one product, and reject all others.

Some times, better products can be brought to the market, and it would be sad if everyone are so stuck with "their product", that they will never try a new one.

It is called development.



I agree, and that is the only way to possibly find a better oil, filter, or additive for anyone interested in additives. I am guilty of trying other products, but for me I always seem to go back to olde faithful. I plan on trying Bio Tech Engine Protectant from Lubegard. The company has a good track record with their transmission products, and based on people who have tried it with positive results I'll give it a shot. Their claims are not out rageous. I spoke with one of their top chemists yesterday and we had a good conversation and a few laughs. A few questions I asked about his product he told me it couldn't do, straight up and honest.

I tend to look for claims that are realistic sounding and not something that defies science, common sense, or a 25% increase or more in mpgs, restores engines to like new conditions, or similar claims. There was one claim that was brought up in the additive section about a ship making the same trip in less time at the same engine speed, and the company was taking credit because of their additive. The only way that could happen would be if the wind and tide were playing into it. That would be like saying a car making a 50 mile trip at 50 miles an hour, constant speed no changes makes it in 45 minutes because of an oil additive. They won't see a dime of my money.

Additives that claim to reduce friction and wear, clean an engine, aid in cold start protection or similar I consider. Then I seek positive testimony from people who tried it and then maybe I'll take the plunge.

When an additive can be poured into an engine and re-build or recondition it, maybe we can call it BITOG Miracle Oil. until then it would have to be proven to me, and the astute members of this board. Then they'd have a sale. JMO
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#1679715 - 11/21/09 08:56 AM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: jonny-b]
c3po Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 3358
Loc: Maryland
Originally Posted By: jonny-b
The reason to why I were testing these additives, c3po, was because at that time, me and my wife were driving a lot and I had the money to try these products.

Since new products are developed, it would not be the smartest thing to stick to one product, and reject all others.

Some times, better products can be brought to the market, and it would be sad if everyone are so stuck with "their product", that they will never try a new one.

It is called development.



Jonny-b, I just feel you are going to come back to us in 6 months or another year and say I am using this oil additive now and it is the best oil additive I have ever used, you seem to have a track record of putting different oil additives in your cars, some that I have never even heard of.

You say that better products come to the market, it seems to me that you find some new oil additive and you just have to try it, you spend a bunch of money on it, the products you show us really do not have any tests that mean anything.

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#1679792 - 11/21/09 10:41 AM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: c3po]
TurboJim Offline


Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 829
Loc: Oregon
The value of these discussions is in the sharing of information. We've seen some come to this section and state they would never use an additive. They are of the opinion that everything you need is in motor oil already.

Others like to believe there is a chance that an improvement can be made by using a specialized product. This thread was started because someone wanted to share their experience with MMO. Others might be curious if they would get the same results by using MMO so perhaps they will try it as well, then report back their findings.

MMO was introduced in 1923. Seems odd that we're still debating it's value today.

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#1681071 - 11/22/09 04:28 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: Spartanfool]
JohnBrowning Offline


Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 9448
Loc: USA
Well I think more UOA with MMO going the distance and not causeing any spikes in wear metals or any drastic changes to TBN would go a long way to reducing peoples fears. It is not like it is easy to put something called "Marvels Mystery Oil" into and $40K car especialy when it smells like mint!

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#1681081 - 11/22/09 04:32 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: JohnBrowning]
Hethaerto Offline


Registered: 09/08/08
Posts: 820
Loc: Tennessee, USA
haha :D
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#1681094 - 11/22/09 04:43 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: JohnBrowning]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21291
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
Well I think more UOA with MMO going the distance and not causeing any spikes in wear metals or any drastic changes to TBN would go a long way to reducing peoples fears. It is not like it is easy to put something called "Marvels Mystery Oil" into and $40K car especialy when it smells like mint!


There's a few UOA's with MMO and they seem to be quiet good. But you're 100% correct that if there were more of them I think even more people would use the product. The word Mystery in the title leaves a lot to the imagination.
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#1681114 - 11/22/09 05:02 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: JohnBrowning]
JohnBrowning Offline


Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 9448
Loc: USA
The minty smell is one of the bigest things about MMO that makes people really wounder about adding it to the oil. Imigne if it smelled like choclate?

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#1681140 - 11/22/09 05:37 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: JohnBrowning]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 5245
Loc: New York
I have used MMO at various times in the 35 years that I've been driving and I think that it works as claimed.

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#1681142 - 11/22/09 05:39 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: pbm]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21291
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: pbm
I have used MMO at various times in the 35 years that I've been driving and I think that it works as claimed.


Me too.
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#1681151 - 11/22/09 05:47 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: JohnBrowning]
Hethaerto Offline


Registered: 09/08/08
Posts: 820
Loc: Tennessee, USA
Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
The minty smell is one of the bigest things about MMO that makes people really wounder about adding it to the oil. Imigne if it smelled like choclate?


Or Jack Daniels. :D
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#1681161 - 11/22/09 06:01 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: Hethaerto]
greenaccord02 Offline


Registered: 04/22/07
Posts: 5215
Loc: Houston, Tx, USA
If it smelled like chocolate or JD I would use twice as much. I might even wear it as cologne.
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#1681311 - 11/22/09 08:24 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: greenaccord02]
lipadj46 Offline


Registered: 08/07/09
Posts: 1223
Loc: Western NY
It smells like wintergreen skoal, kind of makes me queasy when I smell it.
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#1681589 - 11/23/09 01:04 AM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: Hitzy]
ionbeam22 Offline


Registered: 07/25/09
Posts: 417
Loc: Boston, MA
Originally Posted By: Hitzy
MSDS for MMO
http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/msds/docs/wcd00043/wcd04377.htm
Looks like its Benzene, Mineral Spirits, and Napthenic Hydrocarbons.


Dichlorobenzine is a vapor phase degreaser and XP additve, the rest is solvents and light lubricating oil. There may be other "non-toxic" things in it, which add to the performance.

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#1682057 - 11/23/09 12:43 PM Re: MMO - I Almost Hate To Admit it... [Re: ionbeam22]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Yes. It's the 1-2% of unknowns that keep us guessing!

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