LMAO!

Once your UOA's come back, most people who are on the Red Line bandwagon(me included)will get scared and jump off(not me) because you really have to run it for a good 4-5 OCI's for them to look great and not just good. I have always loved moly and want to use RL but that price per quart does bother me and my concience can't justify $9.50/qt price tag. Here I am wasting my $$ on an ridiculously expensive oil while there are people around the world who'd do anything to earn $5 a day. Puts a lot of things in perspective, really.

The way the engine is responding with the oil it has got to churn out good numbers... Nothing has made it this quiet and free-feeling ever!

Then everyone is going to call you out on your butt dynometer or post a big picture of a round pill with the word "placebo" on it.

You bet. The human mind easily succums to the to power of persuasion and desire.

I'm seriously contemplating using RL 5W-40 in my Subie EJ257, but I'm not sure it's worth paying >2X what I pay for RTS. Maybe if I had the hoohoos to run it >2X longer or some data to verify lesser wear I'd try it out, but for now I'll just sit here on the sidelines, enjoying my cheapo "synthetic"

FWIW, I've also considered using RLI 5W-40 since Terry thinks so highly of it. That combined with so many here being on the fence, especially for a more sever-service application. I think if I did this it would provide some good information, and maybe shed some light on how well this oil really holds up to heat and time. While StevieC's planned runs will provide some info, some MIGHT be able to argue that my Subie EJ257 would constitute a slightly more severe service.

Regardless of the cost/benefits I think I'll eventually - with in the next couple of OCI - talk myself into trying one of the more boutique oils; most likely RLI for the aforementioned reasons

Also, since reading all of these butt-dyno responses I've been paying particular attention to how my drive feels every day to see if I notice any changes from day to day, fill up to fill up. FWIW, the car felt much better and responsive today than it did a couple of weeks ago. I'm not sure if it's weather, mood, fuel - I try to fill up at the same Shell every time - or maybe a few days of senses-numbing highway driving that made it feel more responsive, but it did. The oil is the same, maybe 500 miles older - 4100 on the oil TD

Is it as good as that free-feeling one gets when not wearing underwear?

Oh, you mean like on three days past laundry day? I just thought that was called lazy

Even better... It's like streaking across your college campus!

I know it's all hearsay... Hoping to have a UOA to back it up.

Thread hi-jack mode on.
If you're up for a challenge , try searching for some RL uoa's on turbo subie's. I know there are a few on here somewhere, including a good one in a modified (Stage IV??) WRX using RL 10W-40.

Edit: found it here by using the search function on nasioc. That one was actually 5W-40.

-Dennis

I see a "x" where the UOA is supposed to be.

All kidding aside, its the exact reason why I may be sticking with this oil. The engine is so buttery smooth on this oil. I also will do a UOA but with my job being only ~2 miles away I won't do a UOA until sometime around October 2010. Should be meaningless though because I changed to Red Line with the motor only having 1445 miles. It'll be a good trend though.

I like how the Mazda is running on the RL 0w20.

When did you put it in Buster? And is that the first run of RL? How's consumption compared to other oils you've used?

About a month ago. First run of RL. I have 2,300 miles on it now. The 3 doesn't consume any oil at all.

Will sample when the oil has about 10k on it.

Recorded 28.4 mpg with this oil averaging 80mph on the highway and fairly aggressive acceleration.