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#1647529 - 10/27/09 12:08 AM VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL
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#1647548 - 10/27/09 12:37 AM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: 4wheels]
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Their format is hard to read. They should use a larger font CAPITAL letter on top of the elements and justify the text to the top, rather than the bottom. "P"otassium
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#1647661 - 10/27/09 06:13 AM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: 4wheels]
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Wow - thanks for doing this. Very close in elemental adds.
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#1647679 - 10/27/09 06:49 AM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: Pablo]
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Registered: 09/19/08
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Interesting that iron is between 5-7 in the virgin fluids!

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#1648534 - 10/27/09 07:05 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: Boomer]
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Wow I might have to give Amsoil's new MTL a try some time just so I have another choice to recomend. I have to admit though I am partial to ester's over PAO given the choice. It is smart though for Amsoil to copy Redline as Redline MTL has been in a class by itself for a super long time! It never pays to reinvent the wheel when you can just copy someone else's wheel and have an instantly great product!I still have a while before I need to change out my lube in transmission.

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#1648536 - 10/27/09 07:07 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: Boomer]
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Wow I might have to give Amsoil's new MTL a try some time just so I have another choice to recomend. I have to admit though I am partial to ester's over PAO given the choice. It is smart though for Amsoil to copy Redline as Redline MTL has been in a class by itself for a super long time! It never pays to reinvent the wheel when you can just copy someone else's wheel and have an instantly great product!I still have a while before I need to change out my lube in transmission.

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#1648730 - 10/27/09 09:15 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: JohnBrowning]
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Amsoil didn't copy Redline. They both copied Synchromesh!!!!

Great data. Amsoil is a point thinner at temp.

With many new fluids showing up with doses of Boron, makes me wonder if they'll need to 'reformulate' with newer technology.
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#1648974 - 10/28/09 01:37 AM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: unDummy]
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And Synchromesh has an even stronger additive package, with similar viscosity to Amsoil.

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#1649767 - 10/28/09 04:16 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: 4wheels]
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Yes, synchromesh is 'loaded' but doesn't have the group4/5 basestocks.
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#1653138 - 10/31/09 12:56 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: 4wheels]
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Thanks for the VOA's...nice to see two products which are on my potential usage list. thumbsup
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#1658761 - 11/04/09 11:00 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: D-Roc]
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Quote:
Yes, synchromesh is 'loaded' but doesn't have the group4/5 basestocks.


In actuality, the original Blue/Silver labeled bottle of GM Synchromesh contained some GroupV base oil in it for low temp operation.
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#1659252 - 11/05/09 11:22 AM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: MolaKule]
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Define "some"? and which PN?
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#1660006 - 11/05/09 09:29 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: unDummy]
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The GroupV was an alkylated Benzene, similar to the alkylated naphthalene or AN.

The next time I come across a bottle, I will get the part number off of it. As I recall, it had some Delco wording on the label.
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#1660007 - 11/05/09 09:29 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: unDummy]
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The GroupV was an alkylated Benzene, similar to the alkylated naphthalene or AN.

The next time I come across a bottle, I will get the part number off of it. As I recall, it had some Delco wording on the label.
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#1661695 - 11/06/09 11:55 PM Re: VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL [Re: MolaKule]
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It's hard to see the "real" potency of these fluids without a sulfur count. The sulfur would provide the heavy duty EP.

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