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#1631140 - 10/14/09 08:33 AM
Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
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Registered: 11/14/06
Posts: 215
Loc: MA
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What off the shelf synthetic Transmission fluid would you recommend in lieu of using Honda ATF-Z1? I was thinking of using Mobil 1?
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#1631145 - 10/14/09 08:38 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: mez]
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Registered: 08/10/05
Posts: 1979
Loc: Kansas City
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If you are dead set against using the Z-1, probably Amsoil. It is the only alternative that seems to please the users who switch.
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#1631165 - 10/14/09 08:50 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Hermann]
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Registered: 01/10/08
Posts: 4142
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
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There are several. M1, Amsoil, Castol Import. There don't seem to be bad experiences, or at least not any more than there would be with Z1.
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#1631167 - 10/14/09 08:51 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Hermann]
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Registered: 07/19/09
Posts: 1294
Loc: New York
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They don't have any Honda dealers in MA? You can also get it at a Saturn dealer (until they fold up their tents) since 1st generation Saturn VUEs with the 3.5L Honda engine used Honda Z1 fluid. The Saturn dealer will have repackaged Z1, though I can't remember the part number offhand.
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#1631173 - 10/14/09 08:58 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Familyguy]
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Registered: 05/18/03
Posts: 300
Loc: SE Michigan
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When the time comes for my 07 Honda, I think i will try Valvoline MaxLife DEX/MERC ATF.
Specs Recommended for use where the following fluids are specified: Ford MERCONŽ, MERCONŽ V, MERCONŽ SP and LV GM DEXRON, DEXRON II, III and VI Toyota and Lexus Type T, T-III, T-IV and WS Allison TES 295 and 389 Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J and Matic-K Honda and Acura ATF Z-1 (except CVT) Mercedes NAG-1 Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II and SP-III Kia SP-II and SP-III
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#1631188 - 10/14/09 09:15 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: 94MaxGXE]
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Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 8584
Loc: Illinois
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I don't have Hondas but the M1 ATF has worked well for me. I started using M1 ATF when Mobil first produced it. Here's the link. https://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.aspx
Edited by tig1 (10/14/09 09:15 AM)
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#1631235 - 10/14/09 09:55 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: tig1]
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Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 3999
Loc: Calgary Canada
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Pennzoil has an import multi-vehicle ATF that says recommended for Honda and Acura ATF Z-1 (except CVT).
I think I'm going to use the Mityvac and suck out a gallon at every oil change and replace it with the PZ stuff. I'll post results.
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#1631281 - 10/14/09 10:51 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Jim 5]
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Registered: 04/10/09
Posts: 549
Loc: Minnesota
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I've been putting the Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF in my Honda's and it's been working fantastically.
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#1631289 - 10/14/09 10:55 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: nfs480]
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Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
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Red Line D4 works well in my Element.
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#1631296 - 10/14/09 10:59 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Johnny]
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Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 3999
Loc: Calgary Canada
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Red Line D4 works well in my Element. Surprised you're not using PZ's Import MV ATF!
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#1631310 - 10/14/09 11:10 AM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Jim 5]
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Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
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If I did not have to buy it buy the case, I would. No one around me sells it by the quart and it only takes 3.5 quarts to drain and fill the Element.
I might add my wife's Element has the Amsoil ATF in it and it also works well.
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#1631684 - 10/14/09 04:07 PM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Johnny]
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Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 11417
Loc: Silicon Valley
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Maxlife seems to do well in my Integra, then again, probably many import MV ATF especially those that meet JASO A1 will do.
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#1631759 - 10/14/09 04:59 PM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: PandaBear]
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Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 5499
Loc: Washington St.
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The only fluid that meets the Honda spec is Honda's own fluid.
The other fluids are "recommended" by the oil maker for your car. They'll likely do a find job, but they have not been tested and do not meet the spec.
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#1631792 - 10/14/09 05:24 PM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: Ken2]
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 6292
Loc: Buffalo, NY
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There are countless Honda Odyssey owners using Valvoline Maxlife ATF in thier Z-1 spec'd Odys. Maxlife is a "suitable for Z-1 use" ATF per it's specs. Obviously none are going to be approved by Honda. Keep in mind the Odyssey has probably the worst track record in regards to transmission longevity and Maxlife does excellent in them. There's not a single failure report of one running Maxlife that I've seen.
Joel
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#1631981 - 10/14/09 08:00 PM
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
[Re: JTK]
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Registered: 05/09/09
Posts: 853
Loc: ohio
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There are countless Honda Odyssey owners using Valvoline Maxlife ATF in thier Z-1 spec'd Odys. Maxlife is a "suitable for Z-1 use" ATF per it's specs. Obviously none are going to be approved by Honda. Keep in mind the Odyssey has probably the worst track record in regards to transmission longevity and Maxlife does excellent in them. There's not a single failure report of one running Maxlife that I've seen.
Joel +1
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