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#1557381 - 08/07/09 12:32 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ADFD1]
ekpolk Offline
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Registered: 04/05/04
Posts: 8881
Loc: Pensacola FL
 Originally Posted By: ADFD1
If Erica sent that to me, I would see if I could get Toyota to provide me with "Free Oil" according to the law. After all she does rep the company, and in a roundabout way is leading me to believe I have to use their product. I wonder how they'd weave, bob, duck, and side step that flurry? It's about time companies get called out and held accountable for providing people with the wrong information. This goes on all the time, but would stop if they were called out and fined or punished for erroneous information,. Especially when its in print, it can't be denied! Having said all that Erica's comments are somewhat vague, and after dissected by an attorney she might be able to spit the hook.

AD


I suspect that poor Erica is going to find herself in some hot water...
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#1557395 - 08/07/09 12:44 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ekpolk]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46627
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Wow quick and good detective work guys. Thanks!

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#1557455 - 08/07/09 01:45 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: Pablo]
ekpolk Offline
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And here's a screenshot image of the Prius 2010 oil spec direct off the Toyota Tech Info System. Copyright acknowledged, this is intended as "fair use" to clarify this misunderstanding...




This is the most official "word" we're going to get from Toyota. Notice that, from TIS itself, there is absolutely no mention at all about being required to use their flavor of 0w-20. This would not just pop up at the last moment, if they were going to play that game (use our oil or else...), it would have been on the oil caps and in the manuals of the very first cars, which are now being seen on the streets. I've spotted about a half-dozen of them in the flesh.


Edited by ekpolk (08/07/09 01:47 PM)
Edit Reason: added last para.
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#1557501 - 08/07/09 02:50 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: CATERHAM]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9435
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
 Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Just checked with my local Toyota dealer and was told the following over the phone:

They already carry the Toyota brand 0W-20 motor oil.
It's in bulk and is sold OTC in 1 liter bottles.
It's made for them by ESSO (Imperial Oil Canada).
Price is $5.65/liter which is very good if it's a true 0W-20 syn' but I'm suspicious as it sounds very much like a dino 5W-20 at that price.

I'm going to drop by and take a look at the bottle myself.


Just got back from the Toyota dealer. Their 0W-20 oil(part # C0009-00W20-12) is not claimed to be synthetic. The only thing it says on the bottle is that it is SM an energy conserving.

I also contacted Honda. They also have a house brand 0W-20 that they say is not synthetic.
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#1564707 - 08/13/09 01:16 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: CATERHAM]
WGermany Offline


Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 82
Loc: Fl,USA
0w20 that's NOT synthetic? Must be Group III base stock at least. Has anyone got a syn- blend 0w20 on the market?
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#1678658 - 11/20/09 12:31 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: Pablo]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9435
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Quote:
Genuine Toyota Motor Oil 0W-20 contains a Toyota specific additive package within it, making it not interchangeable with other synthetic oils of the same weight such as Mobil 1.


Best,
Erica G, Prius Product Marketing, TMS, USA


Soooo.................let's see the specifications.....hmm....




Well, we now now more about this American made oil and it does seem to be an industry leading product with it's amazingly high VI of 214. A resent VOA has been posted in that section.
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#2487607 - 01/09/12 09:01 AM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ALS]
TheSitRep Offline


Registered: 01/08/12
Posts: 5
Loc: Puna, Hawaii
I just bought a Tacoma w/ 2.7 liter and the cap says 0-20 and the manual says to use 0w20 @5K oci but 5w20 is fine if you can't get 0w20.

The thing takes 6 qts. They gave a voucher for 1st 4 oil changes free.
So, I'll check to make sure they are using toyo 0-20.

I do like the toyo filter too.

Does anybody here know what amsoil cost per quart if you sign up to be a dealer?

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#2487659 - 01/09/12 09:44 AM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: CATERHAM]
R2d2 Offline


Registered: 12/08/08
Posts: 522
Loc: New York, L.I
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Just checked with my local Toyota dealer and was told the following over the phone:

They already carry the Toyota brand 0W-20 motor oil.
It's in bulk and is sold OTC in 1 liter bottles.
It's made for them by ESSO (Imperial Oil Canada).
Price is $5.65/liter which is very good if it's a true 0W-20 syn' but I'm suspicious as it sounds very much like a dino 5W-20 at that price.

I'm going to drop by and take a look at the bottle myself.



Just got back from the Toyota dealer. Their 0W-20 oil(part # C0009-00W20-12) is not claimed to be synthetic. The only thing it says on the bottle is that it is SM an energy conserving.

I also contacted Honda. They also have a house brand 0W-20 that they say is not synthetic.




Honda has both a semi-syn 0w-20, and a newer full syn 0w-20.


Edited by R2d2 (01/09/12 09:46 AM)
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#2487665 - 01/09/12 09:47 AM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ALS]
rcy Offline


Registered: 02/14/04
Posts: 1557
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Since this post is from 2009, I just want to clarify (before someone gets all confused) that the Toyota 0w20 is synthetic.

There is much more recent information regarding Toyota oils on here.

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#2487679 - 01/09/12 10:00 AM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ALS]
R2d2 Offline


Registered: 12/08/08
Posts: 522
Loc: New York, L.I
Wow talk about raising a post from the dead.
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#2490710 - 01/11/12 09:14 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ALS]
moto94536 Offline


Registered: 06/21/10
Posts: 749
Loc: reno nv
The synthetic oil should now be available at all dealers and should very soon be available in bulk, which will reduce the costs for everyone.

I bet the dealer will charge you $7 -$8 a quart for toyota 0w20.
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#2490927 - 01/12/12 07:36 AM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ALS]
rcy Offline


Registered: 02/14/04
Posts: 1557
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
It's been synthetic (in the 0w20) since day one, and was available at the dealer since this thread was first started in 2009

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#2602774 - 04/18/12 12:41 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ALS]
Oldwolf Offline


Registered: 09/22/05
Posts: 993
Loc: Cary, NC
This is from Toyota's FAQ page. Sounds like using non Toyota oil is OK.

Quote:
Genuine Toyota motor oil 0W-20 utilizes a Toyota-specific additive package that will provide the best results for oil performance and fuel economy. Itís what the engine was designed to use. However, other 0W-20 synthetic oils can be used, even though they arenít optimized for Toyota engines.

Disclaimer: 2010 and 2011 Tacoma 4-cylinder and 2010 4Runner 4-cylinder with engine 2TR-FE, while synthetic oil vehicles, have oil change intervals of 5000 miles/6 months.

Also, if 0W-20 is not available, 5W-20 oil may be used, but it must be replaced with 0W-20 within 5000 miles/6 months.
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#2602775 - 04/18/12 12:42 PM Re: Toyota 0W20 Synthetic [Re: ALS]
Oldwolf Offline


Registered: 09/22/05
Posts: 993
Loc: Cary, NC
Plus is sounds like hogwash to me.


Edited by Oldwolf (04/18/12 12:42 PM)
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