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#1510141 - 06/24/09 03:18 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: StevieC]
ffracer Offline


Registered: 02/11/06
Posts: 627
Loc: Watkins Glen, NY USA
There are two ways to look at it:

Walmart - cheapest only, sacifice quality just to get it to work
others - value add, charge more

I think Exxon/Mobil/Esso falls in the second. Exxon/Mobil/Esso and BP's fuel is top tier quality in terms of additives and cleanliness, just not certified. They choose not to participate in the top tier program, due to constraints on other formula specs.

Hess is basic fuel. Basic additives to meet EPA mins. Nothing bad, nothing good. If you want no buildup overtime, look elsewhere. If you are getting rid of the car, it works fine.

What is such a mystery? This topic shows up all the time here.

Gasoline, pre-additive is a commodity and regulated. all the same. Post additive, it is very different and works much better for longer term. There's nothing to "feel" after a tank, unless it is contaminated. Additives work over the long time and you have to pay for it. Simple as that. Techron in a bottle or a brand that has it or you get carbon buildup after 50-70k.

Of course, any brand that isn't contaminated works "just fine" at the time, you simply don't trace the problems back to the fuel later.

All depends how long you keep your car.

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#1510431 - 06/24/09 07:49 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: StevieC]
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Registered: 11/16/06
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Loc: Long Island, NY
Define "cheapest". With gas pushig the $3 mark, the Shells, BP's etc. around me are within 5% of the cheap, no-name stations.

The Hess and BP near me are always within a nickel of each other. Guess which one I frequent.

I do notice idle-quality differences between say Hess/Citgo and BP. Silky-smooth on BP, a bit of shaking on the others.
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#1511002 - 06/25/09 09:14 AM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: Drew2000]
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Registered: 05/12/08
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Loc: Easton, PA
 Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Define "cheapest". With gas pushig the $3 mark, the Shells, BP's etc. around me are within 5% of the cheap, no-name stations.

The Hess and BP near me are always within a nickel of each other. Guess which one I frequent.

I do notice idle-quality differences between say Hess/Citgo and BP. Silky-smooth on BP, a bit of shaking on the others.


I wish we had a BP in my area. Philly stole them all
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#1511904 - 06/25/09 09:45 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: lexus114]
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Registered: 09/16/07
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Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
I usually use Shell, Phillips 66, and Break Time (MFA). Unfortunately, no Chevrons here.

I never saw my '06 Camry idle as low as 600 until I tried using grocery store gas from HyVee Grocery Store. Usually the car idles no lower than 650. Did HyVee gas do something bad to cause the lower idling? Or maybe it was just a coincidence that the one time I tried HyVee gas was the one time the car idled lower than I'd ever seen it idle. Happened last summer during very hot weather.


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#1515424 - 06/29/09 12:19 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: Built_Well]
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Hess is comparable to any other non top-tier gas.
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#1517560 - 07/01/09 12:22 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: Bamaro]
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Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 873
Loc: Albany NY
no top tier gas sold in eastern or central ny either

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#1517609 - 07/01/09 01:15 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: lexus114]
Trajan Offline


Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 3730
Loc: SE PA
 Originally Posted By: lexus114
 Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Define "cheapest". With gas pushig the $3 mark, the Shells, BP's etc. around me are within 5% of the cheap, no-name stations.

The Hess and BP near me are always within a nickel of each other. Guess which one I frequent.

I do notice idle-quality differences between say Hess/Citgo and BP. Silky-smooth on BP, a bit of shaking on the others.




I wish we had a BP in my area. Philly stole them all

Have two near me


Edited by Trajan (07/01/09 01:16 PM)
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#1518035 - 07/01/09 07:52 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: Eddie]
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Registered: 07/06/07
Posts: 6118
Loc: NH
Hess has slowly beeen moving into my area over the last 5 years or so. I actually prefer it to a lot of the other name brands. My 3 Chevy vehicles ran really well on it. No problems with it. May not be top tier but it is good quality.
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#1530279 - 07/13/09 07:30 AM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: LS1MAN]
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Registered: 06/05/09
Posts: 3239
Loc: Florida
We have several Hess stations around town and they usually are cheaper than most other brands. My parents have used Hess for a long time and don't seem to have any problems with it.

My luck hasn't been so good, though. Everytime I have run Hess in my Silverado I get the loudest ticking noise - very consistent, steady tick. It goes away after I go through a few tanks of something else. I typically use BP or Chevron and get better MPG.
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#1530605 - 07/13/09 12:53 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: bigmike]
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Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 6358
Loc: Washington St.
The first test of gasoline quality is to run several tankfuls on repeatable runs to calculate your actual cost per mile. Here in the West Coast BP's ARCO gasoline is the cheapest and the only one that produces noticeably lower miles per gallon. It is no bargain. Really cheap gas might not be up to the octane level shown on the pump sticker...does your state check that occasionally or ever?

The long term cleanliness is a concern, and I'd suggest either using a top tier gasoline, or switching brands frequently, or buying the cheapest gas you can find and adding an effective product like FP60 if you still get a lower total cost per mile.
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#1530750 - 07/13/09 03:37 PM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: Ken2]
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Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 182
Loc: LA
oh no, without top-tier gas how did cars work years ago!

Little crazy folks. Throw in some add once a year to clean and maybe some MMO to gain MPG and be done...I have used FP and FP+ but MMO wins for mpg gains.

I have used Citgo, Flying J, Mobil, BP, Shell, Pride, Hess, BJ, Stop and Shop, Conoco and a few others.... and auto works great...
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#1531598 - 07/14/09 09:25 AM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: Trajan]
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Registered: 05/12/08
Posts: 6116
Loc: Easton, PA
 Originally Posted By: Trajan
 Originally Posted By: lexus114
 Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Define "cheapest". With gas pushig the $3 mark, the Shells, BP's etc. around me are within 5% of the cheap, no-name stations.

The Hess and BP near me are always within a nickel of each other. Guess which one I frequent.

I do notice idle-quality differences between say Hess/Citgo and BP. Silky-smooth on BP, a bit of shaking on the others.




I wish we had a BP in my area. Philly stole them all

Have two near me


Stupid BP stations! ARGH!
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#1545686 - 07/27/09 09:50 AM Re: What do you think of Hess Gas? [Re: lexus114]
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Registered: 06/19/07
Posts: 3199
Loc: Morris County NJ
wife has used "Raceway" gas in her Tahoe for the last 5 years because it is right around the corner and she doesn't want to go out of her way for anything. The Raceway is actually more expensive than other stations because they add a dime a gallon for credit card sales.
I only drive the truck a couple of time a year, but it runs really really well.
I throw Techron Concentrate in it once a year

Steve


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