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#1533598 - 07/16/09 01:01 AM 20W50
grease_monkey Offline


Registered: 12/08/08
Posts: 325
Loc: oregon
Ok my curiosity is running wild. It seems as though the thicker oils are going the way of the dodo bird and that the thin oils are here to stay. But here is my question. Who still uses 20W50 oil? what do you use it in and why? and last but not least would you use it in a vehicle that is under 15 years of age, and under 200,000 miles?

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#1533599 - 07/16/09 01:04 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: grease_monkey]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4192
Loc: Texas
I don't even use that syrup in my bikes!

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#1533602 - 07/16/09 01:05 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: FZ1]
grease_monkey Offline


Registered: 12/08/08
Posts: 325
Loc: oregon
Let me be more clear. I am looking for people who use it. not people who don't

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#1533608 - 07/16/09 01:15 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: grease_monkey]
wirelessF Offline


Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 1487
Loc: Oahu, Hawaii
I use 20W50 in my 1990 Toyota 4Runner. In the user manual there is a guide to see what oil weight should be used depending on the climate. Since I live in Hawaii, a 40 or 50 weight is used in this truck.

Similar from my truck's manual:



Edited by wirelessF (07/16/09 01:17 AM)

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#1533612 - 07/16/09 01:18 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: wirelessF]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 11637
Loc: South Texas,USA
I`ve been using 20W50/15W50 in every car I`ve owned. Here`s a page out of the 1990-1996 Z32 FSM:


Edited by aquariuscsm (07/16/09 01:21 AM)
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#1533618 - 07/16/09 01:27 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: aquariuscsm]
maximus Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 320
Loc: TX
We run straight 50 wt in the Cessnas and Pipers I fly

I guess it's more ideal for aircraft because they're air cooled which is less consisent than water cooled engines.
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#1533693 - 07/16/09 06:16 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: maximus]
Hermann Offline


Registered: 08/10/05
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Lots of people use it in air cooled motorcycles. I use Maxlife 20w-50 in my 1991 BMW R100. It is the grade that is recommended by BMW. Older BMW cars use it also. I have found that it is getting harder to find at superstores, but still readily at Auto part stores.
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#1533707 - 07/16/09 06:40 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: Hermann]
daman Offline


Registered: 09/23/06
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Loc: Bad Axe, MI
I use 15w40 and 20w50 in my ATV's because they run red hot and less shearing goes on...
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#1533708 - 07/16/09 06:41 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: Hermann]
tomcat27 Offline


Registered: 06/25/09
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I use it in my boats (which are GM V6 & V8 blocks)
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#1533740 - 07/16/09 07:19 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: tomcat27]
Carbuff Offline


Registered: 12/11/06
Posts: 103
Loc: Lost in the Garden State
I use M1 15W-50 (20W-50 is specified) in my 1988 Lotus Esprit Turbo.

Another reason for non-turbo applications to use it, is that Mobil has increased the ZDDP in it. This is good for the cams and followers. Not as good for the catalyst...

I understand that several other brands' formulations of heavier oil now still have ZDDP. Look for the SL spec.
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#1533742 - 07/16/09 07:22 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: grease_monkey]
bigmike Offline


Registered: 06/05/09
Posts: 3239
Loc: Florida
 Originally Posted By: grease_monkey
Ok my curiosity is running wild. It seems as though the thicker oils are going the way of the dodo bird and that the thin oils are here to stay. But here is my question. Who still uses 20W50 oil? what do you use it in and why? and last but not least would you use it in a vehicle that is under 15 years of age, and under 200,000 miles?


I used it in my 1986 truck for over 10 years. Worked fine. Even used it with those "restrictive" Pure One filters and without a thermostat! Then again, I live in Florida and it doesn't get below 30 degrees but a few times a year.

Would I use it on my nice, new vehicles. Not so much. I think engineering is much better today.
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#1533751 - 07/16/09 07:33 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: bigmike]
Falcon_LS Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
Posts: 3676
Loc: Kuwait
I've used it for the first 125,000 miles of my truck's life. Now I've switched to synthetic.
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#1533752 - 07/16/09 07:33 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: bigmike]
TallPaul Offline


Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 13056
Loc: By Detroit
Best use for 20w50 is to thicken your 10w30 in the summer at a ratio of about 1:4, which will bring the modern 10 cSt 30 weight up to an old fashioned 12 cSt 30 wt.
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#1533934 - 07/16/09 11:12 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: Carbuff]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 11637
Loc: South Texas,USA
 Originally Posted By: Carbuff

I understand that several other brands' formulations of heavier oil now still have ZDDP. Look for the SL spec.


^^I noticed my jug of Mobil 1 15W50 silver cap has the SM,SL,and CF specs,but my jug of Pennzoil yellow bottle only has SM spec. What exactly does all that translate to when it comes to the ingredients/additives in both oils? Either one more robust/tougher than the other? The way my car performs with both oils,Pennzoil 20W50 yellow bottle wins hands down.
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#1533939 - 07/16/09 11:15 AM Re: 20W50 [Re: TallPaul]
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Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 3756
Loc: CA
I run it in the GN and have for many years. Clearances are stockish except for piston to cylinder. It won't live on anything thinner.

To clarify, I use this year round and it works great. Believe it or not, the thick stuff eliminated the rod knock I experienced for the first second or two on startup on my older worn engine. It seemed to build pressure quicker on the thick stuff which goes against everything we read about on here.
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