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#1520692 - 07/04/09 08:50 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: gs1000]
FiremarshalRob Offline


Registered: 03/25/08
Posts: 386
Loc: Baton Rouge, LA
 Originally Posted By: gs1000
Hello everyone, I am very excited to have found this forum. i have been reading a lot the last couple of days and now am more confused then when i started.

I am right now in the process of building a high performance 12 valve 5.9 cummins. it is my daily hotrod and will be driven everyday. Right now it is at the machine shop being balanced bored, shot peened rods, getting a girdle, main studs, head studs, new pistons flycut with ceramic coating at 16.1 compresion, new cam and lifters. will be at around 700 hp for everyday driving with a future goal of 1000+.

Doing all of this is not terribly inexpensive. So in an attempt to protect this investment i have been reading here. I am going to get an amsoil bypass filter system hoping that the filter will help the inevitable high soot levels with my large amount of fueling. My machinest says i need to run a high zink content oil for the first 1000 miles to break in the valve train. after that normal oil.
so my question is when if ever to switch to a synthetic oil. I was convinced that synthetic was the way to go but after being around here it seems that conclusion is debateable. but i havent seen it discussed for a high horspwer diesel.
I like the idea of a 5-40 oil for the many cold starts it will endure. with temps down to -10 during winter months.

so if this were your engine what kind of breakin oil would you use after the first 1000 miles, dino or synthetic. and what type/brand of oil would you use hoping for longer OCI, hoping to change oil 1-2 times a year, around 20k miles driven a year. thanks.

I'd love to see a picture! Those old 12 valves can be souped up to be some monsters. I've seen some vids of them. I love the sound of them too.
Post up some pictures of your project!

A possible alternative would be a non-synthetic 15w-40 for the summer months and a synthetic 5w-40 for the winter months. 2 OCI a year.

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#1521588 - 07/05/09 09:21 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: FiremarshalRob]
gs1000 Offline


Registered: 06/22/09
Posts: 9
Loc: southern utah
I got my pieces back from the machine shop and now am waiting only for a camshaft support thingy. hope to start assembly on tuesday.
Thanks for all the tips on oil, am thinking that shaeffers products will probably fit the bill.

will try to post pics soon.

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#1521704 - 07/05/09 11:08 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: gs1000]
gs1000 Offline


Registered: 06/22/09
Posts: 9
Loc: southern utah
when using shaeffers oil do you also use there moly oil additive?

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#1521899 - 07/05/09 05:11 PM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: gs1000]
hogpops Offline


Registered: 04/21/09
Posts: 18
Loc: Texas
I just read a post on TDR about Shaeffers oil and turbo surging on a 5.9 Cummins Dodge and turbo failure on some Cat generator industrial engines. You might check it out.

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#1521911 - 07/05/09 05:27 PM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: hogpops]
D-Roc Offline


Registered: 11/23/05
Posts: 1333
Loc: CFB Cold Lake, Alberta
 Originally Posted By: hogpops
I just read a post on TDR about Shaeffers oil and turbo surging on a 5.9 Cummins Dodge and turbo failure on some Cat generator industrial engines. You might check it out.


Do you have a link to that, or do we have to subscribe to the TDR?
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#1522358 - 07/06/09 05:34 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: D-Roc]
hogpops Offline


Registered: 04/21/09
Posts: 18
Loc: Texas
I don't know if this will work, but here is a link:
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/forum...rbo-issues.html

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#1522777 - 07/06/09 01:16 PM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: hogpops]
gs1000 Offline


Registered: 06/22/09
Posts: 9
Loc: southern utah
my machinest has recommended brad penn brake in oil for the first 1000 miles, anyone see a problem with this?

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#1522805 - 07/06/09 01:40 PM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: gs1000]
2rowdy Offline


Registered: 03/17/08
Posts: 25
Loc: SHALLOWATER, TX
I have a 6.7 cummins with all the deletes, right know I am at 450 hp, 965 tq, I run schaeffer's supreme 9000 5w- 40.
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#1531367 - 07/14/09 12:51 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: 2rowdy]
gs1000 Offline


Registered: 06/22/09
Posts: 9
Loc: southern utah
Well the engine is now together and will be going in the truck hopefully on wednesday. I posted the pics and story at competition diesel. here is the link

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61576

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#1531377 - 07/14/09 01:14 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: gs1000]
pickled Offline


Registered: 02/14/08
Posts: 2098
Loc: The Rocky Mountains
The Brad Penn oils I've seen VOA's/UOA's on weren't spectacular for stressed diesel applications, but for break in they should work fine. Be gentle on it then go for something a bit more stout. Have fun creating roadworks projects to stimulate job creation when you put your right foot down and rip up the black top!
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#1531557 - 07/14/09 08:52 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: pickled]
gs1000 Offline


Registered: 06/22/09
Posts: 9
Loc: southern utah
WHen i said bradd penn what i really meant was joe gibbs breakin oil. sorry for being retarded.

and yes i plan on haveing a great time ripping up the asphault.

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#1533586 - 07/16/09 12:22 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: gs1000]
slammds15 Offline


Registered: 05/18/08
Posts: 70
Loc: Canada
I have a quickserve account, the techs get back to me rather quickly. I can't really give you any of thier contact information. what I can do is give you a little direction to thier site. These fellows are very knowledgeable on pretty much everything Cummins related. I'm sure if you contact them someone will give you a factual responce with the information you provide them.

Here are some links, I hope it works for you.

http://wsl.cummins.com/ServiceLocator/jsp/controller.jsp?action=getregion

https://quickserve.cummins.com/info/qsol/products/summary.html


Edited by slammds15 (07/16/09 12:23 AM)
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#1533616 - 07/16/09 01:24 AM Re: New high performance 5.9 cummins. [Re: slammds15]
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Registered: 06/08/09
Posts: 180
Loc: Alaska
I'm being repetitive.I would use the best oil Cummins recommends, which for your app is probably a good CI-4+. Like Delo 400 15W-40. Not the new LE variety.

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Unimog U500/Unicat camper, using Delvac 1 SHC 5W-40
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