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#1457991 - 05/08/09 01:37 PM Stihl vs Echo???
zulu Offline


Registered: 01/21/08
Posts: 528
Loc: Kansas
What's your flavor? I've been using Echos for a couple of years now, but my main string trimmer is on it's last leg. I'm looking at either heading back to an Echo or branching over to Stihl. Price isn't really an issue, but I need something that will take a beating. I do 5-7 large properties per week.
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#1458010 - 05/08/09 01:55 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: zulu]
hate2work Offline


Registered: 09/04/08
Posts: 4617
Loc: Western Washington

Typically, Stihl has a much better dealer network than Echo does. Many Echos are sold in hardware stores like HD, by temporary workers who don't know much of anything about 2 cycle equipment( or anything else for that matter ). Next time you go there, check to see how many chain saw chains have been installed backwards on the display saws!! :) That's a favorite pastime of mine lol

I suggest the Stihl FS 90 or the FS 130. Each is available in a loop handle version or a bike handle version, not sure which you want. If you want to multi task, take a look at Stihl's KM system of tools.
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#1458012 - 05/08/09 01:58 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: hate2work]
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Registered: 07/20/08
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#1458020 - 05/08/09 02:07 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: zulu]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 33981
Loc: New Jersey
I guess my biggest question is if the echo stuff in lower grades, eg the stuff you might find at home depot is of long-lasting quality the way that echo's typical stuff was.

I may be wrong, but it seems that Stihl offers a consistent, high quality product. Echo doestoo, unless something like hd saleshurts the product.

We bought ours at the local shop, but our leaf blower/vac is the same as sold at HD. It has been great, no issues and a fairly high amount of use...

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#1458041 - 05/08/09 02:29 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: JHZR2]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
Doing 5-7 large properties per week, I concur with hate2work for his selection. It is hard to beat the professional line of Stihl products.

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#1458074 - 05/08/09 03:06 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: hate2work]
zulu Offline


Registered: 01/21/08
Posts: 528
Loc: Kansas
 Originally Posted By: hate2work

Typically, Stihl has a much better dealer network than Echo does. Many Echos are sold in hardware stores like HD, by temporary workers who don't know much of anything about 2 cycle equipment( or anything else for that matter ). Next time you go there, check to see how many chain saw chains have been installed backwards on the display saws!! :) That's a favorite pastime of mine lol

I suggest the Stihl FS 90 or the FS 130. Each is available in a loop handle version or a bike handle version, not sure which you want. If you want to multi task, take a look at Stihl's KM system of tools.


I'm leaning towards the Stihls. The Echos are good units, but when every lawn service truck I see has Stihl or Shindiawa units on their racks, that says alot about the brand. I do have some reservations towards the Stihl 4-mix engines though. I like the concept of of the KM tools, but I've been doing lawns since I was 16 and can't get used to a stick edger, so the versatility isn't an asset for me. I have always used a string trimmer for trimming and edging. Do you think the FS80/90s have enough "umph" or do I need to look at the 110/130s?
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#1458081 - 05/08/09 03:17 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: zulu]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
The FS90 has plenty.

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#1458101 - 05/08/09 03:41 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: Johnny]
mpvue Offline


Registered: 07/12/07
Posts: 2695
Loc: Easton, PA
FWIW, when I worked at HD a few yrs back, the deal was they only sold 3 models of echo, and a local echo independent came in to set them up. if you need service later, you just need to go to an independent (which begs the question, why not just go to the independent to begin with).
but, when it came time to buy one myself, I got a stihl (forget which model; the lowest price straight shaft). can't beat the local service. all the units are setup and test run, they filled it with gas, the dude spent a good 15 minutes w/ me on how to use it properly, and filled out and sent in the warranty card for me.
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#1458118 - 05/08/09 04:00 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: mpvue]
hate2work Offline


Registered: 09/04/08
Posts: 4617
Loc: Western Washington
 Originally Posted By: mpvue
FWIW, when I worked at HD a few yrs back, the deal was they only sold 3 models of echo, and a local echo independent came in to set them up. if you need service later, you just need to go to an independent (which begs the question, why not just go to the independent to begin with).
but, when it came time to buy one myself, I got a stihl (forget which model; the lowest price straight shaft). can't beat the local service. all the units are setup and test run, they filled it with gas, the dude spent a good 15 minutes w/ me on how to use it properly, and filled out and sent in the warranty card for me.


I just finished selling a FS 55 ( the entry level straight shaft )this morning to a fellow and his 15 yo son. The boy is going to start doing some lawn work this summer, and his dad wanted him to start out with a good trimmer. I spent 20 minutes explaining all aspects of using and maintaining the unit to them both, and they left with a good working knowledge of how it all works. Warranty registrations are all done online now.

Johnny is right, an FS 90 would be plenty for what you want to do. One thing about these "new" 4 mix technology units Stihl puts out is that you really should be running the white bottle full syn Stihl oil. The other oils were leaving carbon/calcium deposits on the exhaust valve, whereas the full syn oil does not.
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#1458236 - 05/08/09 06:32 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: hate2work]
4esorselrahc Offline


Registered: 11/30/06
Posts: 570
Loc: MS
I have have an Echo SRM 2100 trimmer and PB2100 blower that are both ten years old and still run very well. My primer bulb rotted out on the SRM2100 so I used that as an excuse to get a SRM230, yes, from Home Depot. It seems to be a better unit than the 2100, and I expect it will last me another 10 years easily. The engines on the 2100s are identical, so I plan to use parts off of the trimmer now for the blower if I need too.

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#1458347 - 05/08/09 08:44 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: zulu]
tom slick Online   sleepy


Registered: 05/26/03
Posts: 8611
Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
What brands does your local professional equipment dealer sell?
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#1458369 - 05/08/09 09:02 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: tom slick]
krismoriah72 Offline


Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 147
Loc: wv
I did almost this same question over at lawnsite.com These guys mow for a living day in and day out. I ended up with a Husqvarna 323L which is on sale now ($254) at Lowes. It is under 10lbs and has a commercial engine.

The guys that do it for a living all pointed to the Husqvarna, due to the Echo (not made like they used to be).

The Stihl FS80 was out of my budget at over $300 and I wasnt intersted in the FS90.

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#1458419 - 05/08/09 09:50 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: krismoriah72]
4esorselrahc Offline


Registered: 11/30/06
Posts: 570
Loc: MS
 Originally Posted By: krismoriah72
under 10lbs and has a commercial engine.

The guys that do it for a living all pointed to the Husqvarna, due to the Echo (not made like they used to be).



I flat out DON'T beleive that Echo's are lesser quality than they used to be....If anything, they seem as good or better, based on my experience. One thing that's pretty nifty on my new SRM230 is the catalytic converter of sorts that lowers emissions... Now weed eater, that's a different story.

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#1458767 - 05/09/09 08:55 AM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: 4esorselrahc]
hate2work Offline


Registered: 09/04/08
Posts: 4617
Loc: Western Washington

Cat mufflers have been around for many years now. They were one of the things the manufacturers tried to keep up with the C.A.R.B. regulations. But the 4-mix motors put out even less hydrocarbons than they do.

One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be "pockets" of areas in the US where one of the lesser brands gets a stronghold and does well. One of the biggest things is that there must be dealer support for any brand, or it won't do well. So when you have trouble with your Husky trimmer, hopefully there will be someone around who knows how to repair things and give advice to you. We know that you're not going to get support at Lowes, right? So there must be a local place to get support, that's critical for any brand to survive.

BTW, have you guys tried the new trimmer line that came out last summer? It's from the Oregon company and it's called Gator line. It's a co-polymer line that has a core made of aramid fiber that's tougher than wang leather. If you get a chance, pick some up, you'll definitely like it :)
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#1459231 - 05/09/09 08:13 PM Re: Stihl vs Echo??? [Re: hate2work]
mpvue Offline


Registered: 07/12/07
Posts: 2695
Loc: Easton, PA
 Originally Posted By: hate2work
 Originally Posted By: mpvue
FWIW, when I worked at HD a few yrs back, the deal was they only sold 3 models of echo, and a local echo independent came in to set them up. if you need service later, you just need to go to an independent (which begs the question, why not just go to the independent to begin with).
but, when it came time to buy one myself, I got a stihl (forget which model; the lowest price straight shaft). can't beat the local service. all the units are setup and test run, they filled it with gas, the dude spent a good 15 minutes w/ me on how to use it properly, and filled out and sent in the warranty card for me.


I just finished selling a FS 55 ( the entry level straight shaft )this morning to a fellow and his 15 yo son. The boy is going to start doing some lawn work this summer, and his dad wanted him to start out with a good trimmer. I spent 20 minutes explaining all aspects of using and maintaining the unit to them both, and they left with a good working knowledge of how it all works. Warranty registrations are all done online now.

Johnny is right, an FS 90 would be plenty for what you want to do. One thing about these "new" 4 mix technology units Stihl puts out is that you really should be running the white bottle full syn Stihl oil. The other oils were leaving carbon/calcium deposits on the exhaust valve, whereas the full syn oil does not.

that's what I bought last season, the FS55. I love that trimmer. my yard is small; I didn't buy it for the workload, but I wanted a reliable unit that wouldn't be overworked. very good machine.
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