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#145577 - 07/21/05 08:21 PM Trop Artic motor oil
MRags00Max Offline


Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 7
Loc: Connecticut
Hi Fella's, I'm new to the site.Just wanted to give my 2 cents worth on the Trop Artic oil.
I've been using trop artic oil for the past 15yrs, the reg blend.My 1988 maxima now has 235,000 miles and does not burn a drop of oil.
Yes, i do shop at the Dollar Tree to buy my Trop Artic Oil.A few months back i noticed the shelfs being stocked with the blends i started buying up all the cases i possibly could find.I have 22 cases of the trop artic syn blend 10w-30, which i use in my 2000 Quest, 2000 maxima as well as the 1988 maxima mentioned above.Just recently of the 4 dollar tree stoes that did stock the shelves,only one store has it.I think the cost of oil is going above the price that the dollar trecan sell the oil for without going above a buck.That's what the manager was telling me at the local DT.

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#145578 - 07/22/05 09:03 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
BigDenCCMD Offline


Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 128
Loc: Maryland
I looked for it at a local DT and they did not have any.

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#145579 - 07/21/05 10:51 PM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
kanling Offline


Registered: 07/17/05
Posts: 1088
Loc: Baltimore, MD
22 Cases!?! I think that should hold you for awhile.

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#145580 - 07/22/05 04:11 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 23514
Loc: ME
[Welcome!]

You might be a new guy, but you've obviously got BITOG in the blood. [HAIL 2 U!]

Can you post pictures of your oil stash? [Razz]

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#145581 - 07/22/05 05:49 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Big O Dave Offline


Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 1411
Loc: The New State of Central Calif...
That's 264 quarts, which should take you to near the top of the BITOG stash sweepstakes. Excellent work! [Cool]

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#145582 - 07/22/05 06:12 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
y_p_w Offline


Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 2235
Loc: SF Bay Area
Wow. I only bought 18 quarts, if only because that's what I could get with a $20 bill. I'm giving it my dad for his oil consuming '96 Regal. The clerk just smiled and noted, "That's a lot of oil you've got there." [Smile]

This new Dollar Tree opened in my (quiet suburban) town recently; the location was empty for a couple of years after a Pep Boys store closed down. The only other Dollar Tree I know of is in a certain high-crime neighborhood in Oakland.

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#145583 - 07/22/05 07:52 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Canuck Offline


Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 7
Loc: San Francisco, CA
y_p_w,

I go to the Dollar Tree in Alameda (South Shore Shopping Center). I only secured 1 case of 10W30 syn blend and that was a couple of months ago. You may wanna look into that location instead of a high-crime neighborhood. Just a thought.

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#145584 - 07/22/05 04:14 PM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
MRags00Max Offline


Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 7
Loc: Connecticut
Yes, I'll try to post a picture of my oil collection.... [Big Grin]

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#145585 - 07/23/05 12:51 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Dr Cpk Offline


Registered: 07/18/05
Posts: 26
Loc: Iowa
All, I just seen Trop Artic 5W-30 semi-syn at Wally world for $1.24.
But that's not the purpose for this reply...
The back of the 5W-30 bottle states it EXCEEDS the Ford WSS-M2C930A spec (along with Honda, GM, and Chrysler specs).
In reviewing the 930A spec, it requires a max viscosity @100C of 9.3 cSt. Is the Trop Artic simply mislabled, or do we now have the best of both worlds...a 5W-30 weight meeting/exceeding Ford's 5W-20 930A spec??? [Confused]

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#145586 - 07/23/05 06:23 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Ray H Offline


Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 4478
Loc: Southern California
"Exceeds" in this case simply means that while the Ford spec requires at least a viscosity of 9.3 cST at 100 degrees centigrade, TropArtic's product data sheet claims a viscosity of 10.9 cST under the same temperature condition. In other words, it's slightly better than it has to be to maintain Ford's minimum film strength spec. when hot. Unless several naysayers, who persist in trying to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt that this brand oil can't possibly be any good because it's being sold at a low price, can actually offer verifiable evidence for their baseless allegations, this stuff's the real deal and has a very significant percentage of Group III base stock in the blend. Rejoice and be exceeding glad for the day of buck-a-quart TropArtic 5W-30 at Dollar Tree Stores is at hand. I posted a copy of a UOA for TropArtic "SM" on this very forum a couple of weeks ago and it looked pretty darned good. The naysayers were strangely silent for some reason about the hard evidence from the lab report, but I see at least one of 'em is back with his unsubstantiated claims of false advertising by ConocoPhillips. It does raise questions what his agenda is and whom he works for.

[ July 23, 2005, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: Ray H ]

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#145587 - 07/23/05 06:31 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Al Offline


Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 13581
Loc: Elizabethtown, Pa
It will be interesting to compare the Conoco oils UOA's (Motorcraft, Tropartic, et. all) with Chevron and Havoline. Better base (Tropartic) vs better add pack (Havoline)

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#145588 - 07/23/05 06:43 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Ray H Offline


Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 4478
Loc: Southern California
Interesting point, Al - better "living" through chemistry, or a fundementally better starting point. In the real world, the Chevron products are strongly rumored to be using at least some portion of Group II+ along with Group II. The performance differences may only be marginal. I doubt anybody would go wrong with either company's motor oil.

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#145589 - 07/23/05 07:48 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Bill Offline


Registered: 07/01/02
Posts: 477
Loc: Auburn Hills, Michigan
quote:
I posted a copy of a UOA for TropArtic "SM" on this very forum a couple of weeks ago
Ray,

Where is this UOA?

I cannot find it, I have been waiting to see a Trop-Arctic Syn Blend UOA.

Thanks

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#145590 - 07/24/05 01:11 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Dr Cpk Offline


Registered: 07/18/05
Posts: 26
Loc: Iowa
Ray H wrote: "The naysayers were strangely silent for some reason about the hard evidence from the lab report, but I see at least one of 'em is back with his unsubstantiated claims of false advertising by ConocoPhillips. It does raise questions what his agenda is and whom he works for."


I'm not a naysayer, nor putting Trop Artic down...I currently use a [Wink] Conoco/Phillips blend (Motorcraft).

As I mentioned previously the 5W-30 Trop Artic bottle sez it exceeds Ford 930A 5W-20 spec (MAX viscosity 9.3). So I'm questioning if a 5W-30 really is this thin, as I though 9.3 was a MIN for 30 weight.
This is why I thought ther might be a possible mistake in labeling. Maybe they intended the label to read "Exceeds Ford 929A" (Ford's 5W-30 spec)...
As I use 5W-20 in my new vehicle, a 5W-20 meeting Ford 930A, with the greatest film strength would be right up my alley.

05 Escape Limited 3.0
02 Mustang GT 4.6
97 F150 Off Road 4.6
97 Probe 2.0
95 Probe GT 2.5

[ July 24, 2005, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: Dr Cpk ]

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#145591 - 07/24/05 01:58 AM Re: Trop Artic motor oil
Blue99 Offline


Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 2233
Loc: Wisconsin
Ray H can speak for himself, but I believe he is referencing comments made in a previous thread, not anything posted here.

DrCpk - I believe what you are seeing is simply a printing error on the label.

Ford WSS-M2C929-A is the 5W-30 spec.

Ford WSS-M2C930-A is the 5W-20 spec.

These spec's basically mirror the GF-4 performance & physical properties specifications.

SAE viscosity is included, but the phrase "exceeds the WSS-M2C930-A spec" is stating that the test scores are above the minimum passing grade on a variety of GF-4 engine performance tests.

I'll post a link to the spec's if I can find it in my hundreds of bookmarks. [Smile]

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