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#1418305 - 03/29/09 12:10 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: SnakeOil]
Bryanccfshr Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 5414
Loc: Durango, Co
This is a great looking vehicle and Ford is on a roll building quality vehicles at a valuable price. As a former Toyota loyalist I think Ford is a force to be reckoned with.
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#1418319 - 03/29/09 12:34 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: Bryanccfshr]
Nickdfresh Offline


Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 3219
Loc: Buffalo, NY
 Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
This is a great looking vehicle and Ford is on a roll building quality vehicles at a valuable price. As a former Toyota loyalist I think Ford is a force to be reckoned with.


Welcome to Ford of Europe. Soon to be arriving at a dealer near you...

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#1418328 - 03/29/09 12:52 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: SnakeOil]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 17546
Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
 Originally Posted By: SnakeOil
In case anyone missed it, this engine has twin turbos. It makes over 100 per liter. The SHO is the performance model. It will likely be tracked by some.

The oil and engine coolant are used to cool the turbos. Exhaust gas can reach well over 1,000 degrees. Before I get all the posts about how great 5w30 is...

Someone please tell me ONE application of CONVENTIONAL 5W20 in a factory turbo'd vehicle. When you can't think of one, don't bother replying.

Subaru has recommended conventional oil for the WRX for years, but in the 5W30 grade.

I don't see what's the big deal about using 5W20.

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#1418331 - 03/29/09 01:01 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: The Critic]
Thingfish Offline


Registered: 01/13/06
Posts: 348
Loc: Colorado
I use 0/20 Motul 300v in my Subaru, and It makes ~200hp/L. ( 38x WHP on a Dynojet )

Not what Subaru says to run, but my engine obviously has not exploded. I have no doubt that the 0/20 I use is still thicker than what the dealer installs after 2000 miles..

Our local Subaru dealer installs 5/30 mineral in all it's cars.
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#1418394 - 03/29/09 06:11 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: Thingfish]
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#1418461 - 03/29/09 08:46 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: Bryanccfshr]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 20726
Loc: NY
 Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
This is a great looking vehicle and Ford is on a roll building quality vehicles at a valuable price. As a former Toyota loyalist I think Ford is a force to be reckoned with.



If this economy picks up, and people start buying cars Ford has a winner. As far as the 5W20 oil goes, they spec it, I would use it. If it blows under warranty they eat the repairs. I still think they have tested it extensively. They could just as easily screwed a cap on saying use 5W30, if they felt the need for it.
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#1418465 - 03/29/09 08:52 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: demarpaint]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
I see nothing wrong with 5W-20, but with the HP the SHO will be producing with the twin turbos, and knowing how it will be driven, under the 5W-20 on the oil cap in big print it should say SYNTHETIC. Just my opinion.

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#1418482 - 03/29/09 09:05 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: ARB1977]
adamg Offline


Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 66
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Yep.

And if it blows up after warranty...time for another class action lawsuit!

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#1418484 - 03/29/09 09:06 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: Johnny]
jorton Offline


Registered: 07/04/03
Posts: 2698
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Is the motor oil spec in the link?
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#1418515 - 03/29/09 09:42 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: jorton]
Nickdfresh Offline


Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 3219
Loc: Buffalo, NY
I suspect the actual production car (not using left over oil caps from the 500/Taurus?) will call for MC synthetic 5W-20 or syn blend 5W-30...

IMO


Edited by Nickdfresh (03/29/09 09:42 AM)

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#1418533 - 03/29/09 09:58 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: Nickdfresh]
Audi Junkie Offline


Registered: 11/03/02
Posts: 11247
Loc: PA
If oil temps are controlled, I don't see why not 5w-20.
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#1418587 - 03/29/09 11:21 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: Johnny]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 20726
Loc: NY
 Originally Posted By: Johnny
I see nothing wrong with 5W-20, but with the HP the SHO will be producing with the twin turbos, and knowing how it will be driven, under the 5W-20 on the oil cap in big print it should say SYNTHETIC. Just my opinion.


I was thinking the same thing, they might spec a 5W20 synthetic in the OM. They might even change over to a 5W30 for the final production if additional testing and engineering tells them otherwise,although I seriously doubt that. We'll know soon enough, it's all speculation at this point.
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#1418601 - 03/29/09 11:39 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: demarpaint]
SevenBizzos Offline


Registered: 12/10/06
Posts: 444
Loc: The IL
Nice car! Best Taurus yet. I wouldn't worry about what an oil filler cap for a car that's not in production yet.

If I remember reading corectly, the Ecoboost engine was designed for 7500 mile dino OCI's (but the SHO version may be a bit different).

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#1419553 - 03/30/09 09:03 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: SevenBizzos]
addyguy Offline


Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 13425
Loc: Canada
This engine has twin turbos, so neither produces a HUGE amount of boost, so there isn't that much strain on the reciprocating parts - the turbos are power 'supporters' not the main way the engine makes power. Just a guess. It probably will also have a sump capacity of over 6 quarts, so more oil to take the stress.

But, I agree with others, I'd use syn. in it for extra peace of mind....
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#1419577 - 03/30/09 09:29 AM Re: WTF? 5w20 in the Ford Ecoboost Turbo! [Re: addyguy]
kkreit01 Offline


Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 3701
Loc: Olathe, KS
Snakeoil = 5w20 hater. How many more "5w20 vs. anyting" threads are we going to see? I thought we were over this 3 years ago?


Edited by kkreit01 (03/30/09 09:32 AM)
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