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#134112 - 05/14/05 07:16 PM Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
JM19 Offline


Registered: 05/13/05
Posts: 25
Loc: Philadelphia, PA
I was in Advance Auto Parts the other day and noticed something very interesting. Their house brand of motor oil comes in exactly the same type of package as the Havoline brand. One would not be able to tell the difference if the labels were removed from both bottles On top of that, they are both next to each other on the shelf!

I was just wondering if Advance Auto brand is simply rebranded Havoline? Havoline is my motor oil of choice for all of my vehicles, so this question comes out of pure curiousity.

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#134113 - 05/14/05 07:26 PM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
fuel tanker man Offline


Registered: 08/04/04
Posts: 1341
Loc: wytheville, va
Maybe someone can get Stinky Peterson (Butler Labs) a 10W30 sample of each...

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#134114 - 05/14/05 07:34 PM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
Timothy Ferguson Offline


Registered: 01/08/05
Posts: 318
Loc: Newnan, GA
No it is not. It even says that it is "NOT MANUFACTURED BY HAVOLINE". It is very confusing becuase even if you look at the words on the labels front and back. The words are written word for word except for the fact that where Havoline is written they substituted AA brand. Its a great oil though I have been using for quite some time now in my engines around the house. I think in a another thread people were speculating that it was made by warren possibly a coastal oil product.

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#134115 - 05/14/05 07:48 PM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
Blue99 Offline


Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 2233
Loc: Wisconsin
We just recently had a thread on this subject. Per motorguy222 -

quote:
Advance Motor Oil is made by Warren-Unilube.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=010436

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#134116 - 05/14/05 08:38 PM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
LT4 Vette Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 12308
Loc: USA
Doesn't Warren also make the SuperTech oil for Walmart ??

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#134117 - 05/14/05 08:47 PM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
90lsteg Offline


Registered: 11/15/04
Posts: 107
Loc: Ohio
Warren does make SuperTech for WalMart in certain regions of the country. The bottom of the bottles have a "WPP" symbols. Mobil make SuperTech in other regions for WalMart.

SuperTech from my local WalMart comes in qt and 5 gallon bottles that look just like Mobil's. Does not have the "WPP" symbol at the bottom

IIRC, Fuel Tanker Man posted this info in a previous thread, I am sure he can chime in here with his input

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#134118 - 05/15/05 09:09 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
fuel tanker man Offline


Registered: 08/04/04
Posts: 1341
Loc: wytheville, va
Here's that thread...

Supertech oil source info...

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#134119 - 05/15/05 09:26 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
T-Keith Offline


Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 4865
Loc: MN
Actually the bottles are slightly different too. It's funny someone did the same thing with their oil filters.

-T

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#134120 - 05/14/05 11:08 PM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
JM19 Offline


Registered: 05/13/05
Posts: 25
Loc: Philadelphia, PA
quote:
Originally posted by Timothy Ferguson:
No it is not. It even says that it is "NOT MANUFACTURED BY HAVOLINE". It is very confusing becuase even if you look at the words on the labels front and back. The words are written word for word except for the fact that where Havoline is written they substituted AA brand. Its a great oil though I have been using for quite some time now in my engines around the house. I think in a another thread people were speculating that it was made by warren possibly a coastal oil product.

Thank you for the clarification.

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#134121 - 05/15/05 08:48 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
csandste Offline


Registered: 05/31/02
Posts: 882
Loc: St. Peters, Missouri
Warren Unilube isn't the same as Warren Performance Products. Didn't click on the links but that probably was explained.

When I first saw Advance bottles, I thought the "compare with Havoline" meant that it was re-bottled Havoline. I consider Advances bottles (haven't seen the newest ones, maybe the not-manufactured-by) label is larger, to be highly misleading.

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#134122 - 05/16/05 03:05 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
Whimsey Offline


Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 3029
Loc: The Garden State
I read that the AA motor oil was supplied by Coastal who then was bought up by Warren in NC I believe. They are NO relation to the Warren that does the Walmart and Sears branded oils. I believe AA had to pull some stock of their own brand(Coastal/Warren) oil off the shelf do to quality problems within the past year or two. If you're going with "economy minded" brand oil I'd either use Walmart's SuperTech's or get the sale price on Havoline that AA has quiet often. Or look for a sale of a brand name oil in the paper.

Whimsey

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#134123 - 05/16/05 03:35 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
Ray H Offline


Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 4478
Loc: Southern California
Shoot, Havoline's not even manufactured by "Havoline". It's blended, bottled, and distributed by Chevron Corp. (The former "ChevronTexaco" name reverted back as of May 9, 2005 according to last week's Lube Report.) Wouldn't it just be a hoot if the Advance Auto motor oil really is the unloved corporate sibling of Chevron Supreme and Havoline? (Sometimes what a company doesn't tell you is more informative than what it does tell you! [Wink] )

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#134124 - 05/16/05 03:49 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
y_p_w Offline


Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 2402
Loc: SF Bay Area
Back in the early 90's, a friend of mine was convinced that Chevron, Havoline, Mobil, or the other oils from the major gasoline producers had to be second rate products. I think a lot had to do with the pricing compared to Castrol, Valvoline, Pennzoil, or Quaker State, and all the additional marketing that the (then) lubes-only companies used to do.

I don't think any of the major US brands are unattached to a large gasoline producer, espectially since BP bought Castrol and Ashland (Valvoline) bought out Marathon. Then there's Sopus (Shell, Pennzoil, QS, Slick 50).

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#134125 - 05/16/05 04:16 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
ToyotaNSaturn Offline


Registered: 04/11/03
Posts: 11229
Loc: Spring Hill, TN
Further clarification please...

Technically speaking, AA oil was Coastal oil. Warren Unilube (NOT WPP) bought Coastal. So now that means it's WarrenUnilube oil...or does it mean it's still Coastal in the AA bottle but now owned by WarrenUnilube? Either way, it's NOT Supertech oil since thats made by WPP, correct?

If that's true, it's most definitely NOT a Chevron/Havoline product in their bottle. It's still the bottom-feeder Coastal product...

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#134126 - 05/16/05 06:25 AM Re: Advance Auto Parts Brand Motor Oil...rebranded Havoline?
TomJones76 Offline


Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 1250
Loc: Akron, OH
quote:
Originally posted by Whimsey:
SNIP They are NO relation to the Warren that does the Walmart and Sears branded oils. I believe AA had to pull some stock of their own brand(Coastal/Warren) oil off the shelf do to quality problems within the past year or two. SNIP

Whimsey

For the record, Coastal accidentally bottled some 10W30 as 5W30.
If you live South of the the Mason-Dixon line, no blood, no foul. Further North though, that could have been a problem.
I still don't advocate using Coastal, though.

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