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#1317366 - 12/20/08 08:07 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: james49]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
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 Originally Posted By: james49
I'm not that impressed with Peak's lifetime warranty. If I have to do all the manufacturers recommend maintenance to keep the warranty valid, I'll have to the change the antifreeze in 2 years.


James49,
Can you explain a little more?...Are you talking about the PEAK Global Life Time?...Every 2 years?
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#1317908 - 12/20/08 08:24 PM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: Char Baby]
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According to there website http://www.peakantifreeze.com/peak_global_lifetime.html for the lifetime warranty to be valid you have to do a complete flush of your cooling system and follow the maintenance schedule in your owner's manual. My manual says to change the coolant at 48 months or 60,000 miles (whichever comes 1st) and from then on to change it every 24 months or 30,000 mile (whichever comes 1st). Also if you do your own maintenance it might be hard to prove you did it all. I sent them an email, and I will call them Monday at 1-800-323-5440 to try to clarify the matter.


Edited by james49 (12/20/08 08:25 PM)

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#1318169 - 12/21/08 03:40 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: james49]
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Oh, I see! So it's really no difference than using any other antifreeze. It's not as though you can do a complete cooling system flush and install Peak Global Lifetime and leave it at that. Oh well!

I wonder if it's a better antifreeze than their regular green and LongLife?...Hmmmmm!
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#1319355 - 12/22/08 01:00 PM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: Char Baby]
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Loc: GA,USA
 Originally Posted By: Char Baby
Oh, I see! So it's really no difference than using any other antifreeze. It's not as though you can do a complete cooling system flush and install Peak Global Lifetime and leave it at that. Oh well!

I wonder if it's a better antifreeze than their regular green and LongLife?...Hmmmmm!


Someone from Peak called me about my email. I was told that you don't have to change your antifreeze according to your owner's manual, and If you do your own maintenance you just have to keep a record of it. So I guess it may be a pretty good antifreeze.

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#1330285 - 01/03/09 11:42 PM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: james49]
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Sounds like Peak is interested in their customers.

That's encouraging.
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#1333436 - 01/07/09 12:33 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: SilverC6]
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So is peak global lifetime HOAT or OAT? In otherwords is it the same at G-05, motorcraft, mopar?
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#1333445 - 01/07/09 01:08 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: Ross]
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I'm pretty sure PEAK coolants are silicate-free, while G-05 does have silicates (a small amount).

Due to this, I'm inclined to think G05 is HOAT and PEAK is OAT.

Reference: http://www.autostalk.com/382734-post15.html

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#1333559 - 01/07/09 08:32 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: Reddy45]
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 Originally Posted By: Reddy45
I'm pretty sure PEAK coolants are silicate-free, while G-05 does have silicates (a small amount).

Due to this, I'm inclined to think G05 is HOAT and PEAK is OAT.

Reference: http://www.autostalk.com/382734-post15.html


There is Peak Lifetime which I believe is a OAT and Peak Global which is definitely a HOAT.
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#1333696 - 01/07/09 11:01 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: Donald]
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 Originally Posted By: Donald
 Originally Posted By: Reddy45
I'm pretty sure PEAK coolants are silicate-free, while G-05 does have silicates (a small amount).

Due to this, I'm inclined to think G05 is HOAT and PEAK is OAT.

Reference: http://www.autostalk.com/382734-post15.html


There is Peak Lifetime which I believe is a OAT and Peak Global which is definitely a HOAT.



It certainly is very difficult to figure out all of Peak's products. Donald, if you go to Peak's website here:

http://www.peakantifreeze.com/peak_global_lifetime.html

it states "PEAK Global® LifeTime™ Antifreeze & Coolant - Antigel/Réfrigerant features a patented, advanced organic acid technology" and "Features a patented non 2-EH formula that is phosphate-free and silicate-free"

I think that would make it closer to an OAT instead of a HOAT, unless I am missing something (which wouldn't be unusual).

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#1333715 - 01/07/09 11:16 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: doitmyself]
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OK, I stand corrected, Peak Global is an OAT antifreeze but without 2-EHA.

However to confuse things even more:
Q. Are all extended life OAT coolants the same?

No, there are hundreds of organic acids that can be used as corrosion inhibitors in extended life coolants. PEAK Global LifeTime Antifreeze uses a unique and patented inhibitor package to provide maximum cooling system protection and is the first extended life coolant that can be used in all automobiles worldwide.
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#1333717 - 01/07/09 11:18 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: Donald]
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Peak is all organic it is safe to use in a Honda or Toyota...

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#1333744 - 01/07/09 11:42 AM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: rszappa1]
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 Originally Posted By: rszappa1
Peak is all organic it is safe to use in a Honda or Toyota...


Is this a statement, or a question? Either way, the confusion about Peak Global Lifetime comes full circle. Lately, many here have been recommending Peak GL (an OAT) for Honda and Toyota (who's coolant contains phosphorous...a HOAT?).

So, the PEAK is a very unique "universal", serves all coolant, according to them.

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#1333756 - 01/07/09 12:00 PM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: doitmyself]
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Statement from Peak....

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#1333785 - 01/07/09 12:32 PM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: doitmyself]
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Registered: 12/15/06
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Loc: PA by way of Oregon
 Quote:
Lately, many here have been recommending Peak GL (an OAT) for Honda and Toyota (who's coolant contains phosphorous...a HOAT?).


You've mentioned an possible discrepancy I've also noticed. One might expect that using phosphate together with an organic acid would make antifreeze HOAT, but I've only seen that acronym used for antifreezes that contain silicate.

As far as using Peak Global in Asian vehicles, I use it in my Honda because I don't know of another aftermarket product that comes as close to OEM. It's organic acid, non 2EHA, and has no silicates. So far no issues.

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#1333893 - 01/07/09 01:47 PM Re: PEAK Global Life Time [Re: PeteTheFarmer]
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fwiw, I used G-05 in my old CRV for 3-4 years.

afaik, Prestone "All Makes" has MB specs, shouldn't be silicated? I mean, MB believes in Si so strongly, they put a sack of them in the coolant tank to replenish it. So, it's a "patented" formula...is PEAK the same or different? I suspect the same.
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