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#1250445 - 10/05/08 08:08 AM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoi
[Re: wcbcruzer]
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Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 17065
Loc: Mississauga, Ontario
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See, no one is willing to use regular dino Pennzoil in their high-end cars. That would be foolish to use any brand of conventional oil in a new Corvette, because the warranty clearly states that you need an oil that meets GM 4718M specifications, and no dino oil meets those specs.
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#1250452 - 10/05/08 08:21 AM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoi
[Re: Patman]
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Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 4961
Loc: NY
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I wouldn't knock Pennzoil products, however I ever did Pony up the cash for that Vet, I'd be running what the Manufacturer states PERIOD!
Frank D
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#1250453 - 10/05/08 08:25 AM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: wcbcruzer]
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 5054
Loc: Farmington New Mexico
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See, no one is willing to use regular dino Pennzoil in their high-end cars. What? This is like asking someone to run regular gasoline in a forced induction engine that the factory requires premium. The application requires a level of performance to tolerate specific mechanical conditions. High performance cars often have specific requiremets on lubrication and fuel for example, not becasue the cars cost more and more expensive fluids are Insurance but rather to gain the performance that these cars boast the vehicles components are exposed to higher stress levels(heat energy from turbos and high compression is a primary concern). The cost of the vehicle has nothing to do with the oil specification. There are $30k cars that require syntehtic and there are $30k cars that do not. For those that do not require synthetic I would run them there entire lives with YB without reservation.
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#1250943 - 10/05/08 08:59 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: wcbcruzer]
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Registered: 10/15/06
Posts: 27
Loc: NJ, USA
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See, no one is willing to use regular dino Pennzoil in their high-end cars. Nobody said they would use Castrol either but does that mean it's not a good oil? As for the ZR-1 and conventional oil comment.....well that was just dumb! 
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#1251027 - 10/05/08 10:56 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoi
[Re: demarpaint]
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Registered: 12/11/06
Posts: 87
Loc: Indiana
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I wouldn't knock Pennzoil products, however I ever did Pony up the cash for that Vet, I'd be running what the Manufacturer states PERIOD!
Frank D Well as stated, Mobil One AND Pennzoil platinum BOTH meet the oil specification for this car, so you're covered either way. I have no beef with Mobil One, but since I'm a Pennzoil guy, I would use the the PP. Especially since it's a little cheaper.
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#1251326 - 10/06/08 01:34 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoi
[Re: Dieselbob]
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Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 440
Loc: CA
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Sorry, I didn't know what oil Chevy recommends in the manual. I don't own one. Some of you guys missed my point. Anyway, I'm happy to hear a lot of people like Pennzoil. I think I will use some on my next oil change if I get a really good deal on it. But if I don't, I won't. I still don't think it's BETTER than other oils. I'm talking about DINO, not PLATINUM.
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#1251460 - 10/06/08 04:20 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: Ponch]
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Registered: 07/19/04
Posts: 303
Loc: Long Island/New York
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I used to use Mobil products but from what i've been hearing on this board I switched to Pennzoil conventional/synthetic oil.as for the rumors.People will believe what they want even if you give them proof other wise.Joe
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#1251484 - 10/06/08 05:08 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: Dually]
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Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 440
Loc: CA
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I used to use Mobil products but from what i've been hearing on this board I switched to Pennzoil conventional/synthetic oil.as for the rumors.People will believe what they want even if you give them proof other wise.Joe I'll have to do some reading on Pennzoil then. I would like to believe what others do. I just haven't seen any proof of it. I usually don't read threads in the gasoline forums. Although, I have learned not to trust what everyone says on this board. Too many people jump on the bandwagon and start praising something they don't even know about. Take Auto-RX for example, good product, but I've seen people telling newbies to use it for stuff it was never meant for.
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#1253845 - 10/09/08 03:50 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: Ponch]
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Registered: 01/03/04
Posts: 418
Loc: Glen Ellyn, IL
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Some examples of how this rumor spreads. These were posted TODAY on another forum; ironically in a thread where someone was asking about Walmart synthetic (how it evolved into Pennzoil-bashing I'm not quite sure). Enjoy!
"Only use Quaker State and Pensoil in your old lawnmower. Id never ever put it in a car I like. JMHO."
"I don't know if they still do, but Pennzoil and Q-state used paraffin wax in their oil, it builds up a layer, which is "ok", if you never switch. If you run something else it can release that layer and basically small waxy chunks can clog your oil systyem causing failure. Rare because of the circumstances involved, but that is the legend passed down."
"Ive seen torn down engines using either. One of my friends was working on his dads pickup. He bought it new and changed the oil every 3000 or so miles. He was changing it and asked me what would make the oil take so long to go down to the pan. He also said it had some loud lifter noise and pretty low oil pressure. We pulled off the valve covers and it looked like someone burned about 10 pnds of mashed potatoes in them. All the return holes were nearly plugged up and you could scoop handfulls of the stuff out. Then we went down and pulled the pan. Same thing down there and the oil pump screen was nearly plugged up. We filled up a gallon bucket with sludge. That was just one case...granted a bit more extreme, but still represents what Ive seen a lot of times. Ive used Valvoline, Havoline, Castrol in cars and they are spotless if there ever opened up."
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#1253849 - 10/09/08 03:58 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: css9450]
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Registered: 01/06/08
Posts: 2507
Loc: America's Dairyland
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Some examples of how this rumor spreads. These were posted TODAY on another forum; ironically in a thread where someone was asking about Walmart synthetic (how it evolved into Pennzoil-bashing I'm not quite sure). Enjoy!
"Only use Quaker State and Pensoil in your old lawnmower. Id never ever put it in a car I like. JMHO."
"I don't know if they still do, but Pennzoil and Q-state used paraffin wax in their oil, it builds up a layer, which is "ok", if you never switch. If you run something else it can release that layer and basically small waxy chunks can clog your oil systyem causing failure. Rare because of the circumstances involved, but that is the legend passed down."
"Ive seen torn down engines using either. One of my friends was working on his dads pickup. He bought it new and changed the oil every 3000 or so miles. He was changing it and asked me what would make the oil take so long to go down to the pan. He also said it had some loud lifter noise and pretty low oil pressure. We pulled off the valve covers and it looked like someone burned about 10 pnds of mashed potatoes in them. All the return holes were nearly plugged up and you could scoop handfulls of the stuff out. Then we went down and pulled the pan. Same thing down there and the oil pump screen was nearly plugged up. We filled up a gallon bucket with sludge. That was just one case...granted a bit more extreme, but still represents what Ive seen a lot of times. Ive used Valvoline, Havoline, Castrol in cars and they are spotless if there ever opened up."
My grandpa was talking about Pennzoil the other day and recounted a guy he knew who was using it in his pickup. He told me the guy was driving down the highway and turned on the vents because it was a hot day. Lo and behold, the vents began to ooze wax from every orifice in the cab of the truck. The wax covered the entire floorboard of the truck and covered the gas and brake pedal. The only way he could stop the vehicle was to pull the e-brake and go off into a ditch area.
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#1254069 - 10/09/08 09:36 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: Saturn_Fan]
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Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 504
Loc: new jersey
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i think that i know that guy he was in our shop last month insisting we use 20w50 oil in his 2007 buick with 17,000 miles we did not and he left saying that we use the "light stuff" to burn up the engines so we can make more money!
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#1254085 - 10/09/08 10:03 PM
Re: Im so sick of hearing bad things about pennzoil...
[Re: crazyoildude]
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Registered: 11/03/02
Posts: 7467
Loc: Undisclosed
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literal lol
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