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#1245038 - 09/28/08 01:08 AM Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost
gnet158 Offline


Registered: 09/09/08
Posts: 92
Loc: CA
Which would you run if cost were no issue? I just did the math (loosely) based on my annual driving (20,000 miles per year) in stop and go city driving (50 miles round trip to work daily). Add alot of short trips and offroading in between and that pretty much sums up my drving. Im not too sure about leaving any fluid in my truck for 25,000 miles but Amsoil is highly regarded. Which will protect my engine the best based on my driving habits? Id love to hear your thoughts. And Im not trying to start anything I just want to know because the annual cost is so close.

Heres how the cost of each breaks down.

Amsoil 5W-30 (long OCI) 25,000 miles (Id change it at 20,000)
7 quarts of oil: $62.30 (extra quart for burn off)
Oil Filter: 23.20 (long OCI) 25,000
Total $85.50 + shipping (Im guessing $20-25?)

Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 9,000 mile OCI (18,000 miles total)
6 quarts of oil: $39
Wix Oil Filter: $6.80
Total: $45.80 each oil change (2x which equals $91.60 for the year)
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#1245049 - 09/28/08 02:10 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: gnet158]
mpersell Offline


Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 315
Loc: Texas
first thing I would do is get with one of the Amsoil site sponsors and sign up for the preferred customer program. The ASL is then $6.95 per quart and with the 6 month sign up you're still $4 ahead just in the oil. May be more depending on whether or not the filters are Amsoil or Wix.
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#1245050 - 09/28/08 02:11 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: mpersell]
Liquid_Turbo Offline


Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 793
Loc: Vancouver, BC
Can anyone back Amsoil's 25,000mi claim?

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#1245058 - 09/28/08 03:17 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: Liquid_Turbo]
Gary Allan Offline


Registered: 09/28/02
Posts: 39806
Loc: Pottstown, PA
I'm sure there is, but 25k in one year is exceptional. One year is easy enough. That is, you'll find a heck of a lot more one year "backeruppers" than you have 25-35k'rs.
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#1245060 - 09/28/08 03:28 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: Gary Allan]
ARB1977 Offline


Registered: 06/12/05
Posts: 4771
Loc: North Texas
I wouldnt run Amsoil for that long personally....PP is a great oil for me 6 months or 7500 miles is plenty.
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#1245106 - 09/28/08 06:49 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: ARB1977]
Turk Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
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+1 ARB1977.
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#1245107 - 09/28/08 06:53 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: gnet158]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46995
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Shipping would be under $10.

PC cost would be about $15 for the filter and under $45 for the oil.

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#1245176 - 09/28/08 10:02 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: Pablo]
bmwtechguy Offline


Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 2554
Loc: South Carolina
isn't the cost of being a PC somewhere around 10 or $20/year? I'm sure that would play into the overall cost as well, looking at everything.

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#1245182 - 09/28/08 10:19 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: bmwtechguy]
jpr Offline


Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 383
Loc: San Diego, CA
Before getting too focused on the money aspect, make sure you understand the differences between the two oils. The Amsoil has slightly higher viscosity across the board, includng HTHS. I haven't seen TBN numbers reported for the PP, but Amsoils 12.2 is quite high. Personally though, I think the most significant difference in is the volatility, 12.5 for the PP vs 7.1 for the Amsoil.

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#1245198 - 09/28/08 10:44 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: jpr]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30207
Loc: NJ
 Originally Posted By: jpr
I haven't seen TBN numbers reported for the PP, but Amsoils 12.2 is quite high. Personally though, I think the most significant difference in is the volatility, 12.5 for the PP vs 7.1 for the Amsoil.


Amsoil's volatility is questionable IMO. When they test other oils, they are always lower than what the actual product data sheets show. Check out Amsoil's comparative testing vs the PDS's of Pennzoil.

http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g1971/index.aspx

This is for the 10w-30. Amsoil should have lower volatility due to the PAO base oil. They have PP 10w-30 as 6.5% for Noack. Test methods appear to be the same.

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#1245199 - 09/28/08 10:44 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: gnet158]
ClarkB Offline


Registered: 11/26/07
Posts: 360
Loc: Duluth, MN
 Originally Posted By: gnet158
Which would you run if cost were no issue?...

Heres how the cost of each breaks down.

Amsoil ....
Total $85.50 + shipping (Im guessing $20-25?)

Pennzoil Platinum ....
Total: $45.80 each oil change (2x which equals $91.60 for the year)


I'm not entirely sure I understand your reasoning here...but if cost isn't an issue, run the Amsoil, it's been proven time and time again.

Clark


Edited by ClarkB (09/28/08 10:45 AM)

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#1245209 - 09/28/08 10:59 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: buster]
jpr Offline


Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 383
Loc: San Diego, CA
 Originally Posted By: buster
 Originally Posted By: jpr
I haven't seen TBN numbers reported for the PP, but Amsoils 12.2 is quite high. Personally though, I think the most significant difference in is the volatility, 12.5 for the PP vs 7.1 for the Amsoil.


Amsoil's volatility is questionable IMO. When they test other oils, they are always lower than what the actual product data sheets show. Check out Amsoil's comparative testing vs the PDS's of Pennzoil.

http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g1971/index.aspx

This is for the 10w-30. Amsoil should have lower volatility due to the PAO base oil. They have PP 10w-30 as 6.5% for Noack. Test methods appear to be the same.

That is interesting. PP's data sheet for the 10W-30 lists it at 9.7

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#1245215 - 09/28/08 11:04 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: jpr]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30207
Loc: NJ
I think the big difference between the two is Tbn. PP Tbn is about 10 vs 12.1 for the Amsoil. Both probably use high quality VM's. Shell makes supposedly one of the best VII's on the market. Both are very high quality oils but the edge would go to Amsoil for me. PP is a very competitive synthetic oil though reasonably priced and meets as many OEM spec's as Mobil 1 which is impressive.
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#1245221 - 09/28/08 11:12 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: gnet158]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4192
Loc: Texas
2 oil and filter changes per year with PP is better than one change per year with Amsoil.

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#1245230 - 09/28/08 11:27 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum vs. Amsoil annual cost [Re: FZ1]
Mamala Bay Offline


Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 2085
Loc: USA
What type of truck, year and mileage. Amsoil 5w-30 for severe service is 15,000 mile in 1 year or less.

Also can PP go 9,000 miles under this severe type of driving.

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