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#1136328 - 04/24/08 03:12 PM Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money?
ozzmann Offline


Registered: 04/22/08
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Loc: Imperial Missouri
I have a 2006 F-250 with a 6.0 diesel engine. I use the Motorcraft 15w-40 diesel oil. I pay $9.89 at Walmart for 5 quarts. The Amsoil will be $20.00 a gallon with a $20.00 a year prefered membership. Will Amsoil really be better for my truck in the long run. I plan on driving this truck until the engine goes. I drive a bout 400 highway miles a week and tow occasionally? Thanks for any help.
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#1136336 - 04/24/08 03:22 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: ozzmann]
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The Amsoil will cost you more than $20. A gallon is only 4 quarts, not 5.
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#1136338 - 04/24/08 03:27 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: ozzmann]
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I will answer by first asking a question. Was your diesel engine worth the price Vs a gasoline engine? Someone else brought this up awhile back and this has always been my opinion. If you buy a $20K car or a $55K truck, what's it worth to you. I base my motor oil purchases on what I believe will best take care of my second most expensive possession. The price of the oil NEVER enters into my thought process. I want what I believe is the best for me regardless of price. Is Amsoil better than Motorcraft, I believe it is and if you are thinking about using it, price should be no concern, especially since you plan on keeping the truck until the engine goes.

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#1136353 - 04/24/08 04:00 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: Johnny]
Steve S Offline


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Facts,, over the road semitrucks regularly get 1 million miles running Delo 400, Delvac1300,Rotella 15w/40. These semis cost $70,000+ new so if $10.00 a gallon works in a $70,000+ semitruck motor it should be fine in yours. The price of the oil has nothing to do with its protection . Running a syn oil whether Rotella syn.Amsoil Syn ,Schaeffers syn in theory should give you easier starting in sub freezing temps, run a bypass filter and I would say a real good chance of increased miles per oil change,which at 400 miles per week would be nice . Amsoil syn with an Amsoil bypass filter would work. Study up the uoas.
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#1136407 - 04/24/08 04:55 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: Steve S]
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You know, with the soot issues....diesel cylinder wash issues....and the close neck to neck running anymore with any oil regardless of price. I would look at UOA's and cost per mile before just buying an oil by price. Do some research and you can make an informed decision.

The best oil might be the ticket for a diesel engine, or an engine with lots of mileage. But consider cost per mile after doing your research. Changing more often might be the ticket with a diesel vs. letting the better oil fight off the elements for longer periods of time. In today's world....think like the bigboys and figure out your cost per mile.
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#1136411 - 04/24/08 05:01 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: LargeCarManX2]
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Loc: Imperial Missouri
I am new to the forum. What is a UAO? I don't mind spending the extra money on the Amsoil if it will make my truck last longer.
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#1136415 - 04/24/08 05:08 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: ozzmann]
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 Originally Posted By: ozzmann
I am new to the forum. What is a UAO? I don't mind spending the extra money on the Amsoil if it will make my truck last longer.



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#1136421 - 04/24/08 05:18 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: ozzmann]
Steve S Offline


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 Originally Posted By: ozzmann
I am new to the forum. What is a UAO? I don't mind spending the extra money on the Amsoil if it will make my truck last longer.
What gives you the idea it will make your engine last longer?
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#1136437 - 04/24/08 05:42 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: Steve S]
ozzmann Offline


Registered: 04/22/08
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Loc: Imperial Missouri
Because it is a full synthetic oil. I have always heard synthetic oil makes your engine run cooler. I am just trying to find out if synthetic oil is worth the money or should I just stick with Motorcraft or another good dino oil. Any help would be great.
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#1136441 - 04/24/08 05:46 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: ozzmann]
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Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30050
Loc: NJ
I agree with Johnny. Price really isn't an issue when you compare the value of the engine you are putting it in. Never understood the logic although to their credit, most of it is simply marketing. Amsoil however is one of the few synthetics that actually is worth it IMHO.
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#1136443 - 04/24/08 05:53 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: ozzmann]
Doug Hillary Offline


Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 5077
Loc: Airlie Beach Australia
Hi,
ozzman - IMO you should use a lubricant that has been Approved by the engine's manufacturer as it will be compliant with its needs

Only in extended OCIs and after doing a cost benefit analysis will it become obvious which is the best if you chose to use Amsoil against the others

There are many great synthetic lubricants around that have the manufacturer's Approval



Edited by Doug Hillary (04/24/08 05:53 PM)
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#1136454 - 04/24/08 06:26 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: Doug Hillary]
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Registered: 02/21/08
Posts: 408
Loc: Oceanside, California
Amsoil IS worth the money for protection and longer intervals b/t oil changes. The one thing that you may not have thought about though is that the 6.0 PSD shears oil more than any other Diesel Engine. Due to this, you need to change the oil in your truck more than the others. NO oil rally protects against shearing as well as Schaeffer's Synthetic, Rotella Synthetic, or Amsoil. For that reason alone, I would use a synth oil in my $50k truck, no matter what the cost. Hope this helps.
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#1136459 - 04/24/08 06:39 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: cowhorse01]
Doug Hillary Offline


Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 5077
Loc: Airlie Beach Australia
Hi,
cowhorse01 - Yes, well I used Delvac 1 5w-40 in my $A250000 line haul DD Series 60 500hp/1650ftlbs powered (95000lbs GVM) tractor units. These engines cost $A50k per each!

At an average of 56k OCIs over many engines and millions of kms there was never a loss (or gain) from the original viscosity either

The true test of "worth" depends on the end result - I spent the extra money on the lubricant but I expected the benefit too!

The same applies to Amsoil products no doubt


Edited by Doug Hillary (04/24/08 06:46 PM)
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#1136503 - 04/24/08 07:41 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: Doug Hillary]
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Registered: 11/23/05
Posts: 1526
Loc: quelque part
I guess it all come down to what each individual feels what works best for them. Me, I truly feel that if I were to run any of the following: Delo/Schaeffer's/Delvac/Petro-Can/Valvoline (my favorite brands, 5W40 or 15W40) for 15000 miles and take UOA, The UOA's would be better with said brands as opposed to Amsoil. This is my belief and also related to UOA's I have run with some of those brands and also the AME Amsoil. I could explain the 101 variables involved in my oil runs, but like I said, it comes down to what I feel works better for me- and its not Amsoil. I certainly like their Bypass systems and driveline lubricants though...


Edited by D-Roc (04/24/08 07:42 PM)
Edit Reason: I like their filters as well...

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#1136603 - 04/24/08 09:30 PM Re: Is Amsoil Really Worth The Money? [Re: D-Roc]
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Registered: 08/22/03
Posts: 3390
Loc: lllinois
What Johnny and Buster said. Price shouldn't be the determining factor.
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