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#1127136 - 04/11/08 01:04 PM Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic?
amorak Offline


Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 15
Loc: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Hey guys,

It's been a while since I've been into the 'oil scene', so to speak, here at BITOG.

I have a 2007 GTI with a direct injected, turbo-charged 2 liter engine, and I drive it ...spiritedly

For warranty reasons, I need to use a VW 502 00 approved oil. I know that there is the semi-synth (group III?) Castrol oils, but I prefer to run one of the group IV true synths.

What oil are people running these days for a true synthetic oil that is VW 502 00 approved and not Amsoil/redline/etc?

Thanks!

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#1127146 - 04/11/08 01:17 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: amorak]
JAG Offline


Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 4546
Loc: Fredericksburg, VA
Mobil 1 0W-40 meets VW 502.00 and is a true synthetic by your definition.

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#1127149 - 04/11/08 01:23 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: JAG]
VeeDubb Offline


Registered: 08/15/02
Posts: 2058
Loc: Indiana
When you find out what the "best" VW502 oil is and one that is also Group IV or higher, let me know. I've been looking for this holy grail since 2002.

Edit: I would love to see someone with a DI engine try this and do an oil analysis:

http://avlube.com/mo1espfo5wvw1.html

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#1127157 - 04/11/08 01:34 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: VeeDubb]
bigjeffie Offline


Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 177
Loc: at a theater near you
whats the deal with the shell helix formula we hear is the same as the quaker state 5w-40?
what group is this stuff. ?
it was said the helix is the ferrari fill.
the helix is 502.00 if i am not mistaken

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#1127165 - 04/11/08 01:44 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: bigjeffie]
bigjeffie Offline


Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 177
Loc: at a theater near you
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#1127197 - 04/11/08 02:32 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: amorak]
REDDOG Offline


Registered: 09/11/04
Posts: 949
Loc: Hermon, ME
amorak,

This may be old news to you but those Direct Injection engines are really putting some fuel in the oil (last several reports I've seen, any way.) Whatever oil you choose I'd keep and eye on it (UOA) and keep the drain interval length down until you feel it out. The RLI oils have been highly touted in these apps lately, but honestly I have no clue if they are approved or not. Good luck with your hunt,

REDDOG
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#1127212 - 04/11/08 02:51 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: REDDOG]
VeeDubb Offline


Registered: 08/15/02
Posts: 2058
Loc: Indiana
RLI and Amsoil appear to be very good oils.....perhaps better than most, if not all, VW502 oils. But they do not have formal VW502 approval. So if you are dealing with a super-anal dealer, then you are taking a risk. If your dealer is laid-back, then I'd use one of these.
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#1127231 - 04/11/08 03:08 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: VeeDubb]
Audi Junkie Offline


Registered: 11/03/02
Posts: 11247
Loc: PA
The need for a Groupe Base Sticky Thread that can explain and dispell base oil myths is more apparent all the time.
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#1127272 - 04/11/08 04:06 PM Re: Best VW 502 00 approved true Synthetic? [Re: Audi Junkie]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 33959
Loc: New Jersey

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