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#1125618 - 04/09/08 03:19 PM
Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
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Registered: 10/25/07
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Loc: Somerset County, PA
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I did a Search here, but didn't find anything on this  so, here's something I found at the "Ultimate Oil" section of the MaximumSuzuki forum http://www.maximum-suzuki.com/forums/index.php/topic,12638.200.html : Here is the email from a Rotella engineer that I found on the Shell forums.
"We recently ran the JASO MA friction test on Rotella T with Triple Protection 15W-40, Rotella T Synthetic 5W-40 (CI-4) and our soon to be introduced (within the next 2 months) Rotella T Synthetic 5W-40 CJ-4.
All three oils passed the wet clutch friction test. Rotella T Synthetic 5W-40 (CI-4) has more than 1.2% ash (JASO MA spec limit) so it can not be classified as JASO MA. However, Rotella T with Triple Protection 15W-40 and our soon to be introduced Rotella T Synthetic 5W-40 CJ-4 do meet JASO MA."
If you have any additional questions please call us at 800-231-6950.
Thank you for your interest in Shell products."
Richard Moore
Staff Engineer
Shell Global Solutions (US) Inc.
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#1125678 - 04/09/08 04:59 PM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: 02zx9r]
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Registered: 10/25/07
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Loc: Somerset County, PA
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http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1090054 D'oh!!
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#1125698 - 04/09/08 05:31 PM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: RWEST]
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Registered: 07/05/07
Posts: 3142
Loc: Newport, RI
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just busting on you, no worries.
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#1125934 - 04/09/08 09:56 PM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: 02zx9r]
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Registered: 02/06/07
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Loc: near the mistake
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I think the JASO MA spec is ridiculous. If Rotella will run in a Harley TC or EVO or Shovel for years it will probably be good for most any other motorcycle application and Harley Davidson specs 15w40 HDEO oils as their second choice for years. The HDEO specs should be what you look at versus the JASO. IMO
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#1126145 - 04/10/08 07:02 AM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: PT1]
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Registered: 07/05/07
Posts: 3142
Loc: Newport, RI
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i run the rotella in my bikes and will continue to do so. excellent oil at an excellent price, normally shows excellent wear results and pretty stout add pack
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#1126235 - 04/10/08 08:58 AM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: 02zx9r]
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Registered: 06/28/05
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Loc: Cedar Park, TX
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with the sole exceptions of Maxima 4 Extra 15w50 and Motul 5100 10w50 i would put Supertech 15w40 up against ANY motorcycle spec oil with SRT and the other hdeo's right behind it. spending money on motorcycle spec oil is akin to flushing money down the toilet, imho. ymmv.
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#1126298 - 04/10/08 10:47 AM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: 02zx9r]
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Registered: 01/15/08
Posts: 9
Loc: Michigan
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i run the rotella in my bikes and will continue to do so. excellent oil at an excellent price, normally shows excellent wear results and pretty stout add pack have you ever sent a sample to Blackstone Labs for a test ? jst wondering . . . I plan to make the switch on this change on the RED08 KLR-650. from what ya'll have been saying, it is the best value for the $$$. TIA, RED08
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#1126307 - 04/10/08 11:03 AM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
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#1126395 - 04/10/08 01:26 PM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: road_rascal]
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Registered: 05/01/07
Posts: 336
Loc: Texas
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Yeah I posted that on maximum-suzuki....Just put Rotella T triple protection 15W40 CJ-4 in the bandit 1250....Shifting and clutch action were very smooth...And it ran very smoothly too.
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#1126409 - 04/10/08 01:47 PM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: RED08]
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Registered: 07/05/07
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Loc: Newport, RI
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i run the rotella in my bikes and will continue to do so. excellent oil at an excellent price, normally shows excellent wear results and pretty stout add pack have you ever sent a sample to Blackstone Labs for a test ? jst wondering . . . I plan to make the switch on this change on the RED08 KLR-650. from what ya'll have been saying, it is the best value for the $$$. TIA, RED08 I have sent in a uoa but it was with Exxon Superflo 20w50. I will be sending in another one but it will be Brad Penn 20w50. currently have rotella syn 5w40 in there with maybe a couple hundred miles on it and probably wont sent that in. Have not sent in any for my dirtbike as I change that out quite frequently and I have not seen a need to get a uoa done
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#1126441 - 04/10/08 02:50 PM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: PT1]
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Registered: 10/25/07
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Loc: Somerset County, PA
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I think the JASO MA spec is ridiculous. But, many people also think it is Gospel, and won't use anything without that rating. That's probably why Shell did the tests.
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#1126845 - 04/11/08 01:26 AM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
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Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 2746
Loc: Central Wisconsin
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They found out that their Rotella oils were very popular with cycle riders, so, not wanting to lose a nitch market, they were asked to get their oils JASO rated.
Done and done.
I'm using the synthetic Rotella this year. My stash of Mobil-1 red cap is gone.
May go with the M-1 20W-50 next year; we'll see.
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#1126937 - 04/11/08 08:03 AM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: dwendt44]
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Registered: 07/05/07
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Loc: Newport, RI
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hear that the M1 20w50 is a pretty stout oil
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#1127986 - 04/12/08 09:18 PM
Re: Rotella "T" JASO/MA Certified
[Re: 02zx9r]
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Registered: 01/15/08
Posts: 9
Loc: Michigan
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hear that the M1 20w50 is a pretty stout oil Is there a difference between the Rotella T 15w40 than the t synt? I jst bought a gallon of the RT 15w40 at wally. I use the M1 15w50 in the HD FLTRI and it runs great. I go the full 5k between changes.
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