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#1116588 - 03/28/08 01:36 PM Lexus RX330 complete brake job
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Well the wifes RX330 is hitting 140k and needs rotors & pads all around. I notice Toyota uses these metal clips to hold the whole caliper & pad assembly together. I am used to the GM style carrier that bolts on and have never done the brakes on a Toyota vehicle. Any tips from you guru's on how to get the clips off? Should I buy new clips and anti squeak clips as well? How about the rotors & pads? Factory ones or Raybestos at 30% less $$? What about bleeding...power, pedal or gravity? What say you all? I am entering new territory here any pitfalls to beware of?
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#1116605 - 03/28/08 02:03 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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If the factory pads last a long time on this car, I would stick to them. Find out the part number for your vehicle and buy from a Toyota dealer. It is probably cheaper than the Lexus dealer. The new pads will come with shims. As far as rotors are concerned, I would go with Brembo blanks, Bendix, or Centric Premium. These can be bought online at RockAuto or any website that sells automotive parts.


Good luck and let us know what you decide.


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#1116615 - 03/28/08 02:14 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Spartuss]
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Brembo is the factory supplier but they have not released the front rotors into aftermarket yet and only the Japan built ones for the rear. The centrics are actually more expensive than the on-line Lexus brand and there is no conversion chart from Toyota for the Lexus part numbers. I was wondering about the clips that hold the caliper assembly together. Do I need a special tool to remove them?
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#1116633 - 03/28/08 02:42 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Probably a Haynes type manual is sufficient enough for help with pictures for the brake job.
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#1116647 - 03/28/08 02:59 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Steve S]
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If they are like the Highlander or
Avalon, the clips come right off with fingers or a slight push from a hand tool. Toyota tech just laughed at me when I asked about replacing the shims and clips with new ones. "No, we just use the old ones", he said.

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#1116661 - 03/28/08 03:18 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: ChiTDI]
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 Originally Posted By: ChiTDI
If they are like the Highlander or
Avalon, the clips come right off with fingers or a slight push from a hand tool. Toyota tech just laughed at me when I asked about replacing the shims and clips with new ones. "No, we just use the old ones", he said.


That is what I thought but they are only $8 per axle so I'll get new ones while I'm at it. The rotors are the killer in price. The RX330 shares the Highlander manual so I'm sure it is the same setup. Just ordered one and waiting for it to arrive. The Lexus dealer said they replace all the clips so they don't rattle. Hmmmm. Maybe that is what you get for the upcharge over a standard Toyota product...
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#1116707 - 03/28/08 04:11 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Spartuss]
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 Originally Posted By: Spartuss
If the factory pads last a long time on this car, I would stick to them. Find out the part number for your vehicle and buy from a Toyota dealer. It is probably cheaper than the Lexus dealer. The new pads will come with shims. As far as rotors are concerned, I would go with Brembo blanks, Bendix, or Centric Premium. These can be bought online at RockAuto or any website that sells automotive parts.


Good luck and let us know what you decide.


I found the centric premiums at Rock Auto for a decent price. Have you used them before?
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#1116713 - 03/28/08 04:19 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
 Originally Posted By: Spartuss
If the factory pads last a long time on this car, I would stick to them. Find out the part number for your vehicle and buy from a Toyota dealer. It is probably cheaper than the Lexus dealer. The new pads will come with shims. As far as rotors are concerned, I would go with Brembo blanks, Bendix, or Centric Premium. These can be bought online at RockAuto or any website that sells automotive parts.


Good luck and let us know what you decide.


I found the centric premiums at Rock Auto for a decent price. Have you used them before?

They are good. All of the local shops around here use the Centric Premium rotors. They used to use Raybestos, but switched to Centric Premium rotors and the Posi-Quiet pads as they experience fewer comebacks.

After the 5% off coupon code on RockAuto, it comes to about $217 shipped for front and rear rotors. I would also go with their 105 series Ceramic pads.

You don't need to replace the hardware unless it is rusted and/or badly damaged. If you have been using aftermarket pads, stay with aftermarket pads because if you decide to use OE pads, you would have to buy another shim kit and they are very expensive.

Also, I would use a vacuum bleeder to change the fluid, but also use the old fashioned method (http://www.zeckhausen.com/bleeding_brakes.htm) afterwards as one-man bleeders do not do a very good job of removing all of the bubbles. This two-step process ensures the firmest pedal feel possible.

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#1116757 - 03/28/08 05:08 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Where do I find the 5% off coupon code? As for the bleeding, my 9 year old daughter will be on the pedal \:\!


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#1116758 - 03/28/08 05:09 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
Where do I find the 5% off coupon code?

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messagev...yword1=rockauto

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#1116761 - 03/28/08 05:12 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Thanks! the page says it expires in 2004 but I'll try it.
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#1116764 - 03/28/08 05:14 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
Thanks! the page says it expires in 2004 but I'll try it.

No, scroll down. There are additional codes on that page. Here's the one you need:

951319840107

Put that in the "how did you find out about us" field.

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#1116775 - 03/28/08 05:32 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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DEFINATELY CHANGE THE ABS FLUID!!!!

This board is about fluid maintenence after all. Check out Jegs High Performance mail order for one man bleeders, or suction bleeders for your application/fittings.

Fords Heavy Duty ABS Fluid seems to be very respected. I am not sure if your application is DOT 4 or 5?

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#1116828 - 03/28/08 07:31 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
Thanks! the page says it expires in 2004 but I'll try it.

No, scroll down. There are additional codes on that page. Here's the one you need:

951319840107

Put that in the "how did you find out about us" field.


Ok got it thanks again! and I always change the fluid with every brake service. This vehicle takes dot3 so I'll use synpower.


Edited by PT1 (03/28/08 07:33 PM)
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#1116834 - 03/28/08 07:36 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Has anyone here tried the Akebono ceramic pads?
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#1116840 - 03/28/08 07:39 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
Has anyone here tried the Akebono ceramic pads?

I used them on my auto instructor's 2001 TL. They do seem to last a bit longer than OE and dust less. Some people also claim that they notice a slight improvement in stopping power, but some tests have proven otherwise.

They are just a bit pricey in my opinion, and I'm not sure if they are truly worth the additional cost over the premium pads sold by other brands.

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#1116843 - 03/28/08 07:43 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Actually they are $3 cheaper than the OE pads so I thought I would give them a try. So I'm going to run the expensive pads on the cheap rotors?


Edited by PT1 (03/28/08 07:45 PM)
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#1116844 - 03/28/08 07:43 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
Actually they are $3 cheaper than the OE pads so I thought I would give them a try.

The Centric 100 series are relabeled OEM pads.

I just find the Akebonos to be far more expensive than the Raybestos Advanced Technology Ceramics, Wagner ThermoQuiets, and Centric Posi-Quiet Ceramics.

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#1116848 - 03/28/08 07:46 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
Actually they are $3 cheaper than the OE pads so I thought I would give them a try.

The Centric 100 series are relabeled OEM pads.

I just find the Akebonos to be far more expensive than the Raybestos Advanced Technology Ceramics, Wagner ThermoQuiets, and Centric Posi-Quiet Ceramics.


Maybe I'll try the centric pads. Lexus specs ceramic.
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#1116850 - 03/28/08 07:49 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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One thing, Lexus has 2 part numbers for the front rotors. One for Japan built and one for Canadian built. Centric has one part number for both. I called their customer service line and they said their part number is for both. What do you suppose that is?
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#1116870 - 03/28/08 08:07 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
One thing, Lexus has 2 part numbers for the front rotors. One for Japan built and one for Canadian built. Centric has one part number for both. I called their customer service line and they said their part number is for both. What do you suppose that is?

I did some research and here's what I found.

The Japan build models use one rotor for both the front and rear, and the USA build models use a different rotor for both the front and rear. In either case, both the front and rear rotors are identical.

Now, the rotors for the Japan build model have an outside diameter of 12.56", but the ones for the USA built model is 11.34".

Centric lists the correct front rotor for a Japan build, but the incorrect one for the USA build. Conversely, they list the correct rear rotor for the USA build, but the wrong one for the Japan build.

Of course, I got all of this info from Raybestos, and they may very well be wrong as well. ;\)

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#1116885 - 03/28/08 08:28 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
One thing, Lexus has 2 part numbers for the front rotors. One for Japan built and one for Canadian built. Centric has one part number for both. I called their customer service line and they said their part number is for both. What do you suppose that is?

I did some research and here's what I found.

The Japan build models use one rotor for both the front and rear, and the USA build models use a different rotor for both the front and rear. In either case, both the front and rear rotors are identical.

Now, the rotors for the Japan build model have an outside diameter of 12.56", but the ones for the USA built model is 11.34".

Centric lists the correct front rotor for a Japan build, but the incorrect one for the USA build. Conversely, they list the correct rear rotor for the USA build, but the wrong one for the Japan build.

Of course, I got all of this info from Raybestos, and they may very well be wrong as well. ;\)



Well looks like I am stuck with the OEM ones unless I special order the raybestos ones which only saves me $10 each. \:\( BTW they are not wrong as my parts guy in town tried to explain this to me today.


Edited by PT1 (03/28/08 08:31 PM)
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#1116890 - 03/28/08 08:29 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Do you have Japan or USA build? Just order the correct part numbers from either vendor.

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#1116893 - 03/28/08 08:33 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Do you have Japan or USA build? Just order the correct part numbers from either vendor.


USA (actually Canadian) build. I'll just get the Raybestos ones. Funny thing they had 2 of the front ones in stock today and somebody took them while I was on the phone. Note the front rotor on mine is larger diameter and vented and the rear is solid.


Edited by PT1 (03/28/08 08:34 PM)
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#1116924 - 03/28/08 09:04 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
 Originally Posted By: The Critic
Do you have Japan or USA build? Just order the correct part numbers from either vendor.


USA (actually Canadian) build. I'll just get the Raybestos ones. Funny thing they had 2 of the front ones in stock today and somebody took them while I was on the phone. Note the front rotor on mine is larger diameter and vented and the rear is solid.

Odd, maybe Centric does have the correct part numbers for your application then?

BTW...if you go with the Raybestos rotors, make sure you get the Advanced Technology ones. They come with black colored hats. They have been out for over a year now. If the auto parts store sells you the "PG Plus" ones, they are the old stock. The PG Plus and the Advanced Technology rotors should be about the same price.

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#1116926 - 03/28/08 09:05 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Thanks for looking that up for me I really appreciate it! I'm going to measure the front one tomorrow and see.


Edited by PT1 (03/28/08 09:06 PM)
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#1116948 - 03/28/08 09:26 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Well I checked Rockauto and the 2004 Highlander shares Raybestos 11.34" part number 980211 with the RX330 rear rotor and the Highlander has a 11.65" front rotor part number 980159 on the front which is carried by Rockauto. Could this be it?
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#1116992 - 03/28/08 10:07 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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The Highlanders share the same rear rotors and pads with your car, but only the 2006-2007 models use the same front pads. None of the Highlanders share the same front rotors.

I think the Raybestos catalog is wrong. It's impossible for the vehicle to use the same rotors for the front and the rear. It doesn't make any sense for the vehicle to use solid rotors in the front.

The Centric part numbers were correct all along.

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#1117015 - 03/28/08 10:27 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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The Highlanders share the same rear rotors and pads with your car, but only the 2006-2007 models use the same front pads. None of the Highlanders share the same front rotors.

I think the Raybestos catalog is wrong. It's impossible for the vehicle to use the same rotors for the front and the rear. It doesn't make any sense for the vehicle to use solid rotors in the front.

The Centric part numbers were correct all along.


Yes but Lexus has 2 different part numbers as well. There are 2 seperate part numbers for the shim kits as well


Edited by PT1 (03/28/08 10:30 PM)
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#1117017 - 03/28/08 10:29 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
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The Highlanders share the same rear rotors and pads with your car, but only the 2006-2007 models use the same front pads. None of the Highlanders share the same front rotors.

I think the Raybestos catalog is wrong. It's impossible for the vehicle to use the same rotors for the front and the rear. It doesn't make any sense for the vehicle to use solid rotors in the front.

The Centric part numbers were correct all along.


Yes but Lexus has 2 different part numbers as well.

I guess I'll just have to wait for your rotor measurements.

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#1117018 - 03/28/08 10:32 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
 Originally Posted By: The Critic
The Highlanders share the same rear rotors and pads with your car, but only the 2006-2007 models use the same front pads. None of the Highlanders share the same front rotors.

I think the Raybestos catalog is wrong. It's impossible for the vehicle to use the same rotors for the front and the rear. It doesn't make any sense for the vehicle to use solid rotors in the front.

The Centric part numbers were correct all along.


Yes but Lexus has 2 different part numbers as well.

I guess I'll just have to wait for your rotor measurements.


I think what I'll do is take a trip to the dealer and have them open up one of each and see what the sizes really are. We know the Japan build is 12.56" Well just went out and eyeballed it with a tape measure and it definitely NOT 12.56 (wife thinks I'm nuts ) it is just about 12" \:\(


Edited by PT1 (03/28/08 10:39 PM)
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#1117117 - 03/29/08 04:52 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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PT1,
Im currently using the Akebono Ceramics Pads(F&R) along with Brembo Rotors(F&R) on our 01 RX-300. I purchaced everything from thetirerack. The total cost was a little less(although not much) after shipping than rockauto. I love them. Smooth and quiet with great initial bite and very smooth progressive slow downs even prior to the ABS kicking in. I installed them last April so the vehicle has now been driven in all types of weather here in Upstate NY. Very little light colored dusting on the wheels that comes clean quickly and the brake peddle feels even better than the OE or even the Satisfied Brand Ceramics(also from thetirerack), that I used prior to the Akebono Ceramics. What I mean is, the brake peddal doesn't have that typical Toyota/Lexus squishy brake peddal feel that is often felt in so many (not all) of their cars. But, the peddal still has a fine luxury feel to it. No squeel or noises of any kind but, I did the instalation my self as I don't let anyone touch my brakes. I couldn't pay anyone enough money to do the thorough job that I do. From cleaning the crud from the anti-rattle clips, to lubing the sliders to properly lubing the back of the pads and making any small adjustments(if needed) to bleeding/flush the whole system and getting new brake fluid through the even the ABS modulator/actuator. I bleed/flush everything in the proper sequence.
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#1117293 - 03/29/08 10:57 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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To be honest I did this brake job on my mom's car last night. Keep in mind this is only the second time I've EVER replaced brake pads in my entire life. The hardest part was figuring out how to jack the car up with scissor stands. To make it simple, I used the floor jack that comes with the 330, then used a scissor jack behind the wheel, and then used 2 jack stands up front on the frame in the radiator area. I got it done, though and all is well, and the pad job itself was VERY easy, and yes I reused everything but the pads, lol.

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#1117323 - 03/29/08 11:54 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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PT1,
Im currently using the Akebono Ceramics Pads(F&R) along with Brembo Rotors(F&R) on our 01 RX-300. I purchaced everything from thetirerack. The total cost was a little less(although not much) after shipping than rockauto. I love them. Smooth and quiet with great initial bite and very smooth progressive slow downs even prior to the ABS kicking in. I installed them last April so the vehicle has now been driven in all types of weather here in Upstate NY. Very little light colored dusting on the wheels that comes clean quickly and the brake peddle feels even better than the OE or even the Satisfied Brand Ceramics(also from thetirerack), that I used prior to the Akebono Ceramics. What I mean is, the brake peddal doesn't have that typical Toyota/Lexus squishy brake peddal feel that is often felt in so many (not all) of their cars. But, the peddal still has a fine luxury feel to it. No squeel or noises of any kind but, I did the instalation my self as I don't let anyone touch my brakes. I couldn't pay anyone enough money to do the thorough job that I do. From cleaning the crud from the anti-rattle clips, to lubing the sliders to properly lubing the back of the pads and making any small adjustments(if needed) to bleeding/flush the whole system and getting new brake fluid through the even the ABS modulator/actuator. I bleed/flush everything in the proper sequence.


Brembo has not released the front rortrs for the 330 into aftermarket yet. SO tire rack was not an option. \:\( What is the sequence for the bleed? How did you bleed the abs pump? FWIW I got the raybestos rotors and ceramic pads and my local parts guy matched the rockauto price. What lube do you use for the back of the pads? I have a really good indy wrench for my Toyota & Honda vehicles but he is on the other side of town. So I have decided to add brake jobs to my service capabilities because now thanks to Santa I have 2 new floor jacks and a 160lb compressor with a 33 gallon tank and 1/2 & 3/8 impact drivers so the job should go real easy.


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#1117325 - 03/29/08 11:57 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Rtstrider]
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To be honest I did this brake job on my mom's car last night. Keep in mind this is only the second time I've EVER replaced brake pads in my entire life. The hardest part was figuring out how to jack the car up with scissor stands. To make it simple, I used the floor jack that comes with the 330, then used a scissor jack behind the wheel, and then used 2 jack stands up front on the frame in the radiator area. I got it done, though and all is well, and the pad job itself was VERY easy, and yes I reused everything but the pads, lol.



Congrats, that's what this forum is about!

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#1117328 - 03/29/08 12:01 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Rtstrider]
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To be honest I did this brake job on my mom's car last night. Keep in mind this is only the second time I've EVER replaced brake pads in my entire life. The hardest part was figuring out how to jack the car up with scissor stands. To make it simple, I used the floor jack that comes with the 330, then used a scissor jack behind the wheel, and then used 2 jack stands up front on the frame in the radiator area. I got it done, though and all is well, and the pad job itself was VERY easy, and yes I reused everything but the pads, lol.


You need to get a good tool catalog and post it where everyone can see it about 3 months before Christmas with the tools you want outlined in sharpie marker.....no more socks & fish ties for me....... ;\)
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#1117429 - 03/29/08 03:41 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Brembo has not released the front rortrs for the 330 into aftermarket yet. SO tire rack was not an option. \:\( What is the sequence for the bleed? How did you bleed the abs pump? FWIW I got the raybestos rotors and ceramic pads and my local parts guy matched the rockauto price. What lube do you use for the back of the pads? I have a really good indy wrench for my Toyota & Honda vehicles but he is on the other side of town. So I have decided to add brake jobs to my service capabilities because now thanks to Santa I have 2 new floor jacks and a 160lb compressor with a 33 gallon tank and 1/2 & 3/8 impact drivers so the job should go real easy.

Which model rotors and pads were you able to buy? Did you get the Advanced Technology Ceramic pads (Part # begins with ATD) or did purchase the Quiet Stop (Part # is PGDXXXXQS)

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#1117439 - 03/29/08 03:57 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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You can use Permatex synthetic caliper grease or their ceramic extreme brake parts lubricant.

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#1117700 - 03/29/08 10:18 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Brembo has not released the front rortrs for the 330 into aftermarket yet. SO tire rack was not an option. \:\( What is the sequence for the bleed? How did you bleed the abs pump? FWIW I got the raybestos rotors and ceramic pads and my local parts guy matched the rockauto price. What lube do you use for the back of the pads? I have a really good indy wrench for my Toyota & Honda vehicles but he is on the other side of town. So I have decided to add brake jobs to my service capabilities because now thanks to Santa I have 2 new floor jacks and a 160lb compressor with a 33 gallon tank and 1/2 & 3/8 impact drivers so the job should go real easy.

Which model rotors and pads were you able to buy? Did you get the Advanced Technology Ceramic pads (Part # begins with ATD) or did purchase the Quiet Stop (Part # is PGDXXXXQS)


I got the ATD pads and the regular old style rotors because they don't have the ATD rotors for the front ones yet. Or if they do the parts guy could'nt find a part number for them.(I did ask) The front Canadian build ones from Raybestos are a special order item and it will take a week to get them.
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#1117723 - 03/29/08 10:54 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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I got the ATD pads and the regular old style rotors because they don't have the ATD rotors for the front ones yet. Or if they do the parts guy could'nt find a part number for them.(I did ask) The front Canadian build ones from Raybestos are a special order item and it will take a week to get them.

I see. The Affina catalog already lists the sub-brand as "ADV," so maybe that is Advanced Technology style rotor already? Don't know.

So you're going with the larger vented rotors for the front, and the smaller solid rotors for the rear?

Do you think you can post a picture of that ATD pad? I'm curious if they use the detachable style shim for those pads. I noticed that on much of the ATD line-up, they switched from the riveted shim to a clip type.

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#1117768 - 03/30/08 12:42 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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I got the ATD pads and the regular old style rotors because they don't have the ATD rotors for the front ones yet. Or if they do the parts guy could'nt find a part number for them.(I did ask) The front Canadian build ones from Raybestos are a special order item and it will take a week to get them.

I see. The Affina catalog already lists the sub-brand as "ADV," so maybe that is Advanced Technology style rotor already? Don't know.

So you're going with the larger vented rotors for the front, and the smaller solid rotors for the rear?

Do you think you can post a picture of that ATD pad? I'm curious if they use the detachable style shim for those pads. I noticed that on much of the ATD line-up, they switched from the riveted shim to a clip type.


Yeah the front rotors are vented and the rears are solid and smaller diameter. I'll try to post a pic when the parts come in. FWIW, the Lexus factory pads use clips.
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#1117770 - 03/30/08 12:45 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Yeah the front rotors are vented and the rears are solid and smaller diameter. I'll try to post a pic when the parts come in. FWIW, the Lexus factory pads use clips.

Yeah, but they aren't the same kind of clip-ons. The Lexus/Toyota, Honda/Acura, Nissan/Infiniti OE clip-on shims are user detachable. The aftermarket clip-on shims that Raybestos, Centric and Akebono use appear as though they are clip-on, and they are, but they are not meant to be detached by the user. Do not try to separate the shim from the backing plate, they are attached very tightly for a reason. On the other hand, the OE style clip-on shims are meant to be removed by the installer to apply grease.

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#1117875 - 03/30/08 06:57 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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PT1,
1st: The lubracant that I used on the back of the pads and on the sliders was Permatex Silicone Brake Lube. It's a white plastic jar that has a long brush attached to the lid and the lube is a dark green in color...2nd, the typical procedure for bleeding the hydrolic brake system according to the service manual is in this sequence:(I use a Mite-Vac Brake Pump), Pass Rear, Drive Rear, Pass Front, Drive Front. At the end I also bleed out the "ABS Actuator Assembly" which is located just beneath the resivior for your coolant and has it's own bleeder valve at the top. The service manual that I have mentions nothing about bleeding the "ABS Actuator Assembly". I like to do this anyway. Since the ABS Actuator Assembly is located where it is, one can bleed it in this sequence: Pass Rear, Drive Rear, Pass Front, ABS Actuator Assembly, Drive Front. I've done both ways and it doesn't seem to matter. I don't use any particular brake fluid as long as it meet the proper spec and I haven't seen one that doesn't. Any DOT 3/4 on sale. Be sure to use anti-seeze on the bolts for the caliper holddown bracket. Any other questions that you have, I'll be more than happy to help if I can.
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#1118215 - 03/30/08 03:32 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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PT1,
1st: The lubracant that I used on the back of the pads and on the sliders was Permatex Silicone Brake Lube. It's a white plastic jar that has a long brush attached to the lid and the lube is a dark green in color...2nd, the typical procedure for bleeding the hydrolic brake system according to the service manual is in this sequence:(I use a Mite-Vac Brake Pump), Pass Rear, Drive Rear, Pass Front, Drive Front. At the end I also bleed out the "ABS Actuator Assembly" which is located just beneath the resivior for your coolant and has it's own bleeder valve at the top. The service manual that I have mentions nothing about bleeding the "ABS Actuator Assembly". I like to do this anyway. Since the ABS Actuator Assembly is located where it is, one can bleed it in this sequence: Pass Rear, Drive Rear, Pass Front, ABS Actuator Assembly, Drive Front. I've done both ways and it doesn't seem to matter. I don't use any particular brake fluid as long as it meet the proper spec and I haven't seen one that doesn't. Any DOT 3/4 on sale. Be sure to use anti-seeze on the bolts for the caliper holddown bracket. Any other questions that you have, I'll be more than happy to help if I can.


Is your mity vac a vacuum pump or power bleeder? I have a motive power extractor that I was going to use. Will that work ok? Did you use the old fasioned pump method afterwards?
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#1118279 - 03/30/08 05:58 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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More like a fluid extractor. One man operation. Connects to the caliper bleeder valve. Pump up the vacuum and then open the bleeder valve on the caliper. Captures the fluid in it's own little attached jar. Does not connect the the break master cylinder like a power bleeder. A bit low tech and low cost but, works great and have been using it for many years older non ABS equiped as well as the newer vehicles with ABS, VSC, Traction Control etc.(vehicles that use the brakes to gain traction in foul weather).
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#1118318 - 03/30/08 07:21 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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The only reason to replace the rotors is if they are warped for the most part. Most Toyota's in my family go 17 year's ormore ont he same rotors just replace the pads every 100,000-150,000 miles. Their should be two pins going left to right. Then you should have a saftey retainer that is made out of wire. It does kind of what a cotter key does. It goes into a small pin hole in each one of those retaining pins. Once you have those two thin pins out the pads will come right out. It really is the easisiet system on the planet to work on you will never need more then standard tools to work on it now torx bits, nothing to lube etc......

No know I always bleed my Toyota's right at the caliper or drums starting with the one farthiest from the master cylinder!


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#1118320 - 03/30/08 07:26 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: JohnBrowning]
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#1118348 - 03/30/08 08:21 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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PT 1
More like a fluid extractor. One man operation. Connects to the caliper bleeder valve. Pump up the vacuum and then open the bleeder valve on the caliper. Captures the fluid in it's own little attached jar. Does not connect the the break master cylinder like a power bleeder. A bit low tech and low cost but, works great and have been using it for many years older non ABS equiped as well as the newer vehicles with ABS, VSC, Traction Control etc.(vehicles that use the brakes to gain traction in foul weather).


Good because that is exactly what I have. The motive one even came with a hose for the brake bleeder so I am definitely in business!
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#1118349 - 03/30/08 08:22 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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#1118354 - 03/30/08 08:28 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: JohnBrowning]
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The only reason to replace the rotors is if they are warped for the most part. Most Toyota's in my family go 17 year's ormore ont he same rotors just replace the pads every 100,000-150,000 miles. Their should be two pins going left to right. Then you should have a saftey retainer that is made out of wire. It does kind of what a cotter key does. It goes into a small pin hole in each one of those retaining pins. Once you have those two thin pins out the pads will come right out. It really is the easisiet system on the planet to work on you will never need more then standard tools to work on it now torx bits, nothing to lube etc......

No know I always bleed my Toyota's right at the caliper or drums starting with the one farthiest from the master cylinder!


Here in Ohio where they dump hundreds of metric tons of salt on the roads 4 months a year you never wear out rotors as they corrode away long before they wear out. The fronts get hot enough to self clean but the rears rarely make it past 2 sets of pads before the edges begin to disappear. Then this crud gets in between the pad & rotor and gives you a spongy pedal because you are pushing through grit every time you step on the brakes. I have had my kids Honda at the dealer having them look for a fluid leak only to realize the pads needed cleaning. The fronts on the Lexus are corroded to the point where the vent webs are beginning to disappear...time to replace them even though they still have enough surface to turn them once more. \:\(
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#1118544 - 03/31/08 07:18 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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JohnBrowning,
I wish I could go umteen years without replacing rotors. Due to the road salt and stop & go driving here where I live, I can't drive my vehicles more that about 6 years before replacing rotors(some vehicles only about 3-4 years). Toyota/Lexus or any other vehicle for that matter. At some point they all warp to the level where the vibration becomes violent.
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#1118568 - 03/31/08 07:58 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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JohnBrowning,
I wish I could go umteen years without replacing rotors. Due to the road salt and stop & go driving here where I live, I can't drive my vehicles more that about 6 years before replacing rotors(some vehicles only about 3-4 years). Toyota/Lexus or any other vehicle for that matter. At some point they all warp to the level where the vibration becomes violent.


Mine rarely warp...just dissolve away. I get 4 years max out of a set.
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#1119355 - 04/01/08 06:42 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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PT1,
Me too! I've had rotors that didn't warp but, corroded so badly from the road salt that they wore down the pads to the metal in a type of grinding effect. My rotors, reguardless of warpage or corroding, are usually beyond turning and I just throw them away. Years ago (60's & 70's vehicles), I never replaced rotors and drove them for years. Rotors were very expensive to replace back then but were made out of great metal. Today they're quite affordable.
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#1119525 - 04/01/08 11:26 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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PT1,
Me too! I've had rotors that didn't warp but, corroded so badly from the road salt that they wore down the pads to the metal in a type of grinding effect. My rotors, reguardless of warpage or corroding, are usually beyond turning and I just throw them away. Years ago (60's & 70's vehicles), I never replaced rotors and drove them for years. Rotors were very expensive to replace back then but were made out of great metal. Today they're quite affordable.


I know...my wife is from the LeRoy-Batavia area and you get the same salt corrosion we do. We plan to move South in 3-4 years when the kids exit high school. Then the never ending salt bath will cease.
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#1120018 - 04/02/08 12:28 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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What is so funny about nothing to lube??? GM and most other domestic still use cheap slider designs with pins that need to be lubed and replaced from time to time. The seals go bad on the them and they rust etc.....I have been lucky enough to own TOyota's for a long long time. In fact my 1986 Toyota 4Runner had what looked like Brembo's but where cast out of iron for the front with some seriously large rotors for the time. Seeing how my rotors made it 17 year's and were only turned once I would say I was doing something right.In fact when I replaced the rotors I became the first person in my extended family to ever need to replace rotors on any Toyota the family has owned since 1971!

My family in general own a mix of Toyota,GM and Chrysler products. In general the owns that own GM and Chrysler need to freq. replace rotors,drums and friction and the GM's are the worst for roting away.I have never seen a Toyota rot it rotors and drums away. I live in Michigan and Ihave a Tundra,Tacoma,2 Camry's and a Buick that I am responable for serviceing.


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#1120032 - 04/02/08 01:32 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: JohnBrowning]
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What is so funny about nothing to lube??? GM and most other domestic still use cheap slider designs with pins that need to be lubed and replaced from time to time. The seals go bad on the them and they rust etc.....I have been lucky enough to own TOyota's for a long long time. In fact my 1986 Toyota 4Runner had what looked like Brembo's but where cast out of iron for the front with some seriously large rotors for the time. Seeing how my rotors made it 17 year's and were only turned once I would say I was doing something right.In fact when I replaced the rotors I became the first person in my extended family to ever need to replace rotors on any Toyota the family has owned since 1971!

My family in general own a mix of Toyota,GM and Chrysler products. In general the owns that own GM and Chrysler need to freq. replace rotors,drums and friction and the GM's are the worst for roting away.I have never seen a Toyota rot it rotors and drums away. I live in Michigan and Ihave a Tundra,Tacoma,2 Camry's and a Buick that I am responable for serviceing.

Toyota's factory service manual requires lubricating the INNER (not outer) brake pad shim and the slide pins. I also recommend lubricating the pad support plates (commonly referred to as caliper abutment clips) and the part of the pad that contacts the caliper.

This is essential for noise control.

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#1121096 - 04/03/08 11:22 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!
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#1121112 - 04/03/08 11:37 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!

Post up some pictures of the new parts when you get a chance, thanks.


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#1121143 - 04/03/08 12:07 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!

Post up some pictures of the new parts when you get a chance, thanks.



How do you post pics on this site?
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#1121144 - 04/03/08 12:08 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!

Post up some pictures of the new parts when you get a chance, thanks.



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Upload to http://www.photobucket.com. They give you an option to select the image with the "IMG" tags. Copy, paste and post that entire link. The link you post should resemble something like [IMG]http://XXXXX[/IMG].

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#1121157 - 04/03/08 12:24 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Ok will do..
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#1121542 - 04/03/08 09:12 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Here are my parts
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#1121543 - 04/03/08 09:13 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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#1121545 - 04/03/08 09:16 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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What do you guys use to clean the oil off these rotors...I'm figuring brakekleen...??
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#1121562 - 04/03/08 09:34 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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ACDelco states to never use any solvent based product to clean the rotors. However, since you need to remove the packing oil, go ahead and use brake cleaner anyway, but follow-up with the recommended soap and water wash. I think the brake cleaner might leave a residue that causes problems.

The parts look great. I guess Raybestos is finally improving their quality? Let us know how the install turns out. Be sure to bed-in the pads.

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#1121570 - 04/03/08 09:42 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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i would always rinse in warm water, wipe off with a paper towel, the non lint kind. then i would spray them with brake cleaner and throw them on the car.
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#1121618 - 04/03/08 10:56 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: bdcardinal]
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How about simple green?
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#1121619 - 04/03/08 11:00 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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The parts look great. I guess Raybestos is finally improving their quality? Let us know how the install turns out. Be sure to bed-in the pads.


These look like jewelry compared to the ones at the dealer! I am going to bed them in with the 30x30mph-5mph stops with some cruising in between. Another method I have used is 10-30mph stops then on the freeway 10-55mph to 20mph gradual slowdowns (late night) then 10-30mph stops. Which do you think is better?

The pads on the car were done the second way and lasted over 40k with the wife at the wheel.
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#1121637 - 04/03/08 11:48 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Try the 30X30mph-5 first and see how it feels. I know that this method works well for curing pedal pulsations:

http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm

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#1121952 - 04/04/08 01:06 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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I think I'll try the 100mph to 20mph in my development.. Acually, I used that 60 mph procedure before and it works.


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#1121968 - 04/04/08 01:32 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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I think I'll try the 100mph to 20mph in my development..

It'd be funny if you got pulled over and you had to explain yourself to the cop.

"Sir/Ma'am, I was uhh....."


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#1122463 - 04/05/08 05:42 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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I like the looks of the rotors especially the black coating around the hup.
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#1122809 - 04/05/08 06:39 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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Well all done! Everything went without any issues and I went out and did my 30-30 bed in procedure so I am good to go. I want to thank everyone here who helped me with this project, I really appreciate all the advice and tips. Note: tha quality of the raybestos parts is excellent and I highly recommend them. Thanks again everyone!!


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#1122811 - 04/05/08 06:41 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Well all done! Everything went without any issues and I went out and did my 30-30 bed in procedure so I am good to go. I want to thank everyone here who helped me with this project, I really appreciate all the advice and tips. Note: tha quality of the raybestos parts is excellent and I highly recommend them. Thanks again everyone!!




Now gives us an early review of the pads.

How's the stopping power compared to the previous "mystery" semi-metallic pads? How about compared to the OE Lexus pads?

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#1122813 - 04/05/08 06:48 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Well all done! Everything went without any issues and I went out and did my 30-30 bed in procedure so I am good to go. I want to thank everyone here who helped me with this project, I really appreciate all the advice and tips. Note: tha quality of the raybestos parts is excellent and I highly recommend them. Thanks again everyone!!




Now gives us an early review of the pads.

How's the stopping power compared to the previous "mystery" semi-metallic pads? How about compared to the OE Lexus pads?


They stop fine but really too early to tell as I didn't want to overheat them too much but no noise, judder, pull and the pedal is very good for brand new rotors. I'll report back in about a week after the wife breaks em in. The mystery pads ate up some big channels in the back side of the front rotors. I'm glad they are gone. I cleaned one set off with brake cleaner to try to identify them but no markings. So who knows?
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
They stop fine but really too early to tell as I didn't want to overheat them too much but no noise, judder, pull and the pedal is very good for brand new rotors. I'll report back in about a week after the wife breaks em in. The mystery pads ate up some big channels in the back side of the front rotors. I'm glad they are gone. I cleaned one set off with brake cleaner to try to identify them but no markings. So who knows?

I might be able to figure it out if you can post a picture of the pads.

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#1122820 - 04/05/08 06:57 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
They stop fine but really too early to tell as I didn't want to overheat them too much but no noise, judder, pull and the pedal is very good for brand new rotors. I'll report back in about a week after the wife breaks em in. The mystery pads ate up some big channels in the back side of the front rotors. I'm glad they are gone. I cleaned one set off with brake cleaner to try to identify them but no markings. So who knows?

I might be able to figure it out if you can post a picture of the pads.


Too late they are at the bottom of the trash can and the wife packed some disgusting stuff on top....besides she already thinks I'm crazy for posting pics of new parts...if I start posting dirty used parts she will want to send me to the boobey hatch....
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#1122823 - 04/05/08 06:59 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
Too late they are at the bottom of the trash can and the wife packed some disgusting stuff on top....besides she already thinks I'm crazy for posting pics of new parts...if I start posting dirty used parts she will want to send me to the boobey hatch....



Well if they looked like this, they are Raybestos:

http://info.rockauto.com/Raybestos/Detail.html?PGD1005M-1.jpg

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#1122825 - 04/05/08 07:00 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Too late they are at the bottom of the trash can and the wife packed some disgusting stuff on top....besides she already thinks I'm crazy for posting pics of new parts...if I start posting dirty used parts she will want to send me to the boobey hatch....



Well if they looked like this, they are Raybestos:

http://info.rockauto.com/Raybestos/Detail.html?PGD1005M-1.jpg


Nope...different shims on the back
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#1122829 - 04/05/08 07:02 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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#1122830 - 04/05/08 07:03 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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http://partimages2.genpt.com/largeimages/509585.jpg

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That looks like them. What brand is that?


Edited by PT1 (04/05/08 07:04 PM)
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#1122833 - 04/05/08 07:05 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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http://partimages2.genpt.com/largeimages/509585.jpg

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That loos like them. What brand is that?

Napa Safety Stop Ceramics. I think Rayloc makes them, but I could be wrong.

Part # SS S7906X, $41.49. Here's a picture of the back:

http://partimages2.genpt.com/largeimages/509584.jpg

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#1122837 - 04/05/08 07:10 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
 Originally Posted By: The Critic
http://partimages2.genpt.com/largeimages/509585.jpg

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That loos like them. What brand is that?

Napa Safety Stop Ceramics. I think Rayloc makes them, but I could be wrong.

Part # SS S7906X, $41.49. Here's a picture of the back:

http://partimages2.genpt.com/largeimages/509584.jpg


Well the guy who put them in is a small independent shop so I wouldn't doubt he is using NAPA parts. They did go a long way though so I not complaining.
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