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#1014510 - 10/21/07 02:36 PM Valvoline synthetic brake fluid
INDYMAC Offline


Registered: 07/15/06
Posts: 2326
Loc: Magnolia, TX
I had some new brake pads installed on my 2000 Tundra and want to flush the brake fluid. I picked up some Valvoline synthetic fluid at AZ and wondered if anyone had any experience with it. I was just looking for DOT 3, but this product says it exceeds DOT 3 and 4 (boiling point I guess). Good choice? Also, how much of this stuff will I need (disc front/drum rear)?
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#1014511 - 10/21/07 09:41 PM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: INDYMAC]
INDYMAC Offline


Registered: 07/15/06
Posts: 2326
Loc: Magnolia, TX
The product is called Valvoline SYNPower Full Synthetic High Performance Brake Fluid. Exceeds DOT 3 & DOT 4, Compatible with conventional brake fluids.
Although it claims to be "ideal for hydraulic drum and disc brakes", I have reservations about it being completely compatible with my brake system that was designed and tested with DOT 3. Also, I don't want to use something that I might have to replace more frequently than DOT 3.

CONTAINS: Brake fluid (a complex mixture of glycol ethers polyglycols and inhibitors). 500degF dry boiling point.

Has anyone tried this yet in a DOT 3 application?
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#1014512 - 10/21/07 10:49 PM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: INDYMAC]
bmph8ter Offline


Registered: 06/15/07
Posts: 72
Loc: AR
I have. My Scions call for DOT3 and I just flushed/bled/refilled xB #2 with SynPower about a month ago. No problems yet, and I don't expect to have any. I don't know about more frequent replacement, but I plan on the flush/refill/bleed every 2 years.
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#1014513 - 10/21/07 11:10 PM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: bmph8ter]
Matt89 Offline


Registered: 04/21/03
Posts: 1432
Loc: Virginia
Ive used it in Chevies & Hondas with no issues, and plan to continue using it! Every 2yrs for me.

On my Chevy I did notice that it didn't get as dark and scummy looking as the OEM after a couple years.

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#1014514 - 10/21/07 11:28 PM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: Matt89]
gregmp Offline


Registered: 01/15/06
Posts: 93
Loc: Boston, MA
Very good fluid for the money.

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#1014515 - 10/22/07 12:42 AM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: gregmp]
MaximaGuy Offline


Registered: 09/20/03
Posts: 701
Loc: Austin, TX
It is one of the best OTC fluids -- I would go as far as saying it is the best. Good stuff and use it with confidence.

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#1014516 - 10/22/07 12:59 AM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: MaximaGuy]
INDYMAC Offline


Registered: 07/15/06
Posts: 2326
Loc: Magnolia, TX
Thanks for the testimonials guys. Here is an article that raises my concerns about compatibility in my application. The author seems to think I should stick with DOT 3.

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_brakefluid_1a.shtml
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#1014517 - 10/22/07 03:41 AM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: INDYMAC]
bmph8ter Offline


Registered: 06/15/07
Posts: 72
Loc: AR
Yup, I read the same article before I bought mine. I chose not to worry because it's listed as DOT 3 & 4; not just DOT 4. You also have to consider that the article is about 3 years old too. Oh, and if it matters I put the SynPower in my 1969 VW Beetle too.
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#1014518 - 10/22/07 04:58 AM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: bmph8ter]
Colt45ws Offline


Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 7382
Loc: Central Washington
I have synpower in several vehicles, never had a problem.
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#1014519 - 10/22/07 05:20 AM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: Colt45ws]
Greggy_D Offline


Registered: 03/03/05
Posts: 1531
Loc: Near Ann Arbor, Michigan
Just flushed the Taurus this past weekend with it. Sleep easy, my friend. It's good stuff.
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#1014520 - 10/22/07 08:31 AM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: Greggy_D]
Auto-Union Offline


Registered: 02/01/06
Posts: 3833
Loc: NEPA
There is no functional difference except BP and WBP minimums. That is, meeting DOT 4 means meeting 3&4.

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#1014521 - 10/22/07 10:49 AM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: Auto-Union]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
All brake fluid is synthetic.
For street use, anything that meets the DOT spec would be OK.
Your Valvoline is a good fluid, but I don't think that you will see any difference from it and the cheapest generic brake fluid of the same spec.

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#1014522 - 10/22/07 03:04 PM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: mechtech2]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 6714
Loc: Florida
I use it in my cars, and cars that belong to family members. It amazes me how clean it stays.

Sure, cheap DOT 3 is fine, but it isn't going to last as long.
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#1014523 - 10/22/07 07:22 PM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: artificialist]
Big Jim Offline


Registered: 09/24/04
Posts: 1571
Loc: Thousand Oaks, CA
I too have used Valvoline Synpower DOT 4 brake fluid for years. I really like the stuff.

Generally speaking, any DOT 4 should be changed more frequently that DOT 3. The formulation that increases the boiling point also makes it have a greater affinity for water. I change mine every year or two, but on other family cars using this fluid it still looks fine after as much as five years. I believe you should change brake fluid at least every three years on any car, no matter what fluid you use.

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#1014524 - 10/23/07 09:34 PM Re: Valvoline synthetic brake fluid [Re: Big Jim]
99TA Offline


Registered: 10/02/07
Posts: 179
Loc: nonya
I've been using Valvoline synpower for years and had zero problems.I usually suck out the master cylinders once a year and refill.

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