Well, I went shooting recently and the gun became pretty dirty. I shot more rounds than I should have at one time.

Anyway, I am impressed with the MC-25 gun cleaner from Milcomm. It can be used indoors because it does not have a strong chemical smell. And it did a good job of cleaning.

I am not as impressed with Gunbutter. There was some more wear on the barrel after shooting then had been there before. I would rather use TW25B gun oil and gun grease. Although I have occasional used TW25B gun oil and gun grease in the past I have not really given the product a really good testing. These products are also made by Milcomm.

I am still waiting for the Jardine's Custom extreme use gun grease. It has not arrived yet.

From what I can see right now Hoppes gun oil is adequate. Maybe the TW25B products will be better. I am hoping the Jardine's Custom stuff will be a lot better.

I should add probably that the Gunbutter is not made by Milcomm. The TW25B gun oil and gun grease and the MC-25 gun cleaner are made by Milcomm.

I don't know who makes Gun Butter but it is to expensive and over hyped.

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Gun Butter is a new technology for specialty lubricants. It is an exotic blend of the finest synthetic lubricants available anywhere in the world. Gun Butter's creation was inspired by shooters who desired consistent function in their shotgun, rifle, and pistol competitions during extreme shooting conditions. Gun Butter was created by an aerospace design team using a Continuous Quality Improvement Process to specifically engineer a complete lubricant for guns.

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A bunch of blather.

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micro-mono layer

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What does that mean??
Some people love this stuff, but I must say that I am not surprised by your results. I think you will like the Jardine's much better.

Thanks for the report and glad you like the MC-25.

Yes, thanks for telling me about MC-25. So far I have been impressed by it. I can use in indoors because it does not have a strong chemical smell and it seems to clean as well as MPro7 (Hoppes Elite). It is water based. Unless there are problems with corrosion or something I will strongly endorse MC-25.

The stuff I got from Wilson Combat does not impress me much. I will use it up on my SIGs.

After I get the Jardine Custom grease I will give it a try. I don't plan on testing any more stuff. It gets expensive to do testing. But I did want to find the safest to use and most effective cleaners and gun lubes I could find.

It will probably come down to either the Jardine Custom gun grease or else the TW25B grease and TW25B gun oil. I found out just today I can in fact still get the TW25B products locally. But I will probably have to order the MC-25 directly from Milcomm.

I plan on continuing to use the MC-25 gun cleaner. It is a better buy than Hoppes Elite. When I am able to clean outdoors I don't mind Hoppes No. 9. But I don't like to use Hoppes No. 9 indoors. Hoppes No. 9 is probably mainly kerosene. I can handle it but not these bore cleaners that have a smell bad enough to knock a person over.

The Jardine Custom gun grease is actually cheaper than the MC25B gun grease. So I hope the Jardine Custom gun grease works.

If you use a phosphor bronze bore brush and hot water then you don't even need to use bore cleaner.

It really works. Just hold your barrel under water and run the brush (preferably one a couple sizes larger than your caliber, I use a .45 brush for a 9mm barrel) back and forth through the barrel a dozen times or so and it will come out spotless.

Towel it off and use compressed air to get the rest of the water out.

Try it sometime, you might be surprised.

Glocks can rust!
Looky here.

For more info on Glocks go here ---> http://www.glocktalk.com

I ONLY (just to avoid any possible confusion) do this to my barrel, but I must agree that a slightly oversized brush, hot water and plain 'ol dishwashing soap cleans as good as any application-specific product I have ever tried.

Sure, any gun can rust if it is abused. I have gone scuba diving in the ocean a dozen or more times with my Glock and not a speck of rust on it.

Of course, I clean it ASAP after diving and use spring cups.

its better to UNDER grease a Glock than to OVER grease it.. go to GlockTalk.com pleny of info there... i have a g19 9mm with a tactical light and [censored] i love that thing.. whoever said they are over rated in the combat guns line really needs a kick in the arse and an education..

Just curious as to why you would dive with your gun???

Makes for decent defense against sharks. I didnt have the $$$ to buy a shark stick, so I went with my Glock.

Just a few words of caution about under water activities with your Glock.

1st - NEVER use anything other than FMJ round nose ammo. The propensity for a hollow point to open while in the barrel is VERY likely and VERY dangerous. At the very least it may exit the barrel and then open pre-target, which all but expends the energy before you want it to. Also, the ammo should be certified for hydo-emersion to ensure reliable firing.

2nd - unless you have the special springs cups, or modified yours PROPERLY, the striker will not always move forward quick enough to ignite the primer reliably.

3rd - Can you say hearing damage? Most all liquids transmit sound waves on a hugely exponential gradient.

How do I know? They actually covered these topics in one of my Glock Armorer certification classes many years back.

Not that getting eaten by a shark is any fun either ...

Back in the day when I worked a gun store, another guy fired off several hollow points in his pool from a Glock. They all went off, and none of them damaged the gun (surprising to me). He did not have his ears underwater when firing, however.

The entire gun should have no air bubbles in it as well. Along with some other precautions. Read more before you attempt to modify your Glock and before shooting underwater.